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Cerveskia wrote:Why am I becoming ever more disappointed in the future?

Cause there won't be one at this rate?

Free terand wrote:Mine START BACK UP in June!

So do mine. I have one week free and then my summer classes begin.

Post self-deleted by Cerveskia.

Hello, everyone.

Cerveskia, Free Transhumanists, The Lunar Republic, and Enterprise and people

Cerveskia wrote:I....have no comment anymore. I think a large part of what we are seeing is due to the economic collapse precipitated by the pandemic. Even Rome knew that Bread and Circuses could control the populace.

So... after longer period of time I'm going to type something more than just "hi, so how's everyone doing?".

Well... about that.... I think (subjectively) it's quite right. It's one of the major reasons why I started to focus on political economy over other possible specializations. You can control population by "redistributing" poverty, or by consumption, or both. And when the economic tools of control fails then the state tries to control the masses by other possible control mechanisms - police/military repression, ideology - i.e. symbols of nationalism, unity and other myths and social constructs.

My personal opinion on this situation is, that is sad that people are changing when you take away a portion of their unnecessary consumption abilities. In my eyes of idealistic libertarian the free market was about freeing from the feudal system, freeing people from the social oppression. Free market was promising new way how to liberate human action and ideas. But instead of that our "free" market started to reproduce inequalities. Sure, inequality is a "price" for everyone's individuality and uniqueness and therefore inequality shouldn't be pathological effect of the market economy, the inequality is rational and understandable.... in theory.... but in economic reality we can find cases where inequality is caused not by individual uniqueness but by collective apathy and ignorance, by rabid massive consumption maintained by few monopolized market subjects and when you try to find some "individual" behavior in this massive consumption, I think you would mostly fail in that. So there is a still long argued question - is human really that much of an individual? I personally believe that each human CAN be individual and have divergent behavior, but contemporary political, social and economic environment and its influence causes market to be heavily institutionalized, which brings another defects like cartel price deals of few monopolized subjects that still allows to exploit third world countries and is a great obstacle to their growth and life conditions improvement.

For me, individualism could and should be rooted in postmaterial narrative as well as is heavily rooted in material narrative and constant "calming" of hedonistic needs. For example - what is a price? Is it really a number simply gathered aggregation of market information? Or is it more of a personalized value of not just material products, but also actions connected to these products and other things? I get that, aggregation is quantitative way for gathering information which is probably necessary for larger-scale economic communication, but just because of that do we really need to think about prices as of quantitative "objective" information? And what is the economic growth then? Is it really statistical information about growing market success to satisfy our needs? Individual's needs are defined by the individual's morals and consciousness, so I think sometimes "less is more" so the less consumption and lower growth or even decrease of GDP does not equates to "better satisfying of needs". In economy and in the market we've learnt to worship numbers and quantitative data by using methods of natural sciences where constant variables are everywhere... but the economics is not a natural science, there are no constant variables.

So... as the conclusion - do we want a working liberating market? Then we need to create an environment where individuality and critical thought can thrive. Or do we not? Then we can stick with this reality,... but in my eyes it's not a free market... and I wonder if it had ever been.... Or maybe we can create another economic system that will further away embraces collectivist behavior tendencies. But as an idealistic and naive postmodern individualist I rather dream about how markets and people become "freed" one day.

PS: How it goes with the new RP development? :-) I'm planning to participate as well :-). And if you wanted/needed some help with some details, background etc. than I could help as well :-).

Environmental Support, Catos, Cerveskia, and Enterprise and people

Daydem wrote:Hello, everyone.

Well hello there!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562275770031144961/717041142729932860/unknown.png

When it comes to political discussion, irl mind you, I have two modes. My genuine ridiculously radical political beliefs and my beliefs that fit squarely within the system. Depending on who I'm talking too, I may tell them that violent protest is ill advised but in reality I see it as a legitimate way to achieve political change.

But no matter who I am talking to or which "set of beliefs" I choose to represent at the time, I will always see looting as immoral and nonproductive. The issue is this, protestors, both peaceful and violent, want political change due to distrust and abuse from the current system. But looters, in almost all cases, are opportunists. People not affiliated with the protests who simply take advantage of the unrest to seek personal gain. And the actions of the looters are causing the protests to be viewed as universally violent and nonproductive, even though none of it is the protesters' doing.

I have friends who were peacefully protesting and have been shot multiple times with rubber bullets because looting was occuring a few blocks away. The police are using a blanket approach for both the protestors and the looters, causing a blatant breach of the constitutional right to assembly. I understand why the police are doing this but it doesn't make it acceptable.

Moral of the story is, sh*t is unilaterally f**ked, and the state is dumb.

Catos, Cerveskia, Free terand, and Free Transhumanists

Sh*t's f*cked, I have no more to say, See you all in the fire-scorched afterlife

The deroniac highlands

Environmental Support wrote:When it comes to political discussion, irl mind you, I have two modes. My genuine ridiculously radical political beliefs and my beliefs that fit squarely within the system. Depending on who I'm talking too, I may tell them that violent protest is ill advised but in reality I see it as a legitimate way to achieve political change.

But no matter who I am talking to or which "set of beliefs" I choose to represent at the time, I will always see looting as immoral and nonproductive. The issue is this, protestors, both peaceful and violent, want political change due to distrust and abuse from the current system. But looters, in almost all cases, are opportunists. People not affiliated with the protests who simply take advantage of the unrest to seek personal gain. And the actions of the looters are causing the protests to be viewed as universally violent and nonproductive, even though none of it is the protesters' doing.

I have friends who were peacefully protesting and have been shot multiple times with rubber bullets because looting was occuring a few blocks away. The police are using a blanket approach for both the protestors and the looters, causing a blatant breach of the constitutional right to assembly. I understand why the police are doing this but it doesn't make it acceptable.

Moral of the story is, sh*t is unilaterally f**ked, and the state is dumb.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/2/will-smith-va-police-chief-says-rioters-blocked-fi/
Do you still support violent protest now?

Free Transhumanists wrote:Well hello there!

https://youtu.be/BeJZVTsbif4

Free terand

Post self-deleted by Cerveskia.

Free Transhumanists wrote:Well hello there!

GENERAL KENOBI!

Cerveskia and Free Transhumanists

The deroniac highlands wrote:https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/2/will-smith-va-police-chief-says-rioters-blocked-fi/
Do you still support violent protest now?

Yes

Free terand and Free Transhumanists

Cerveskia wrote:Free Transhumanists
RP is pretty much ready, just whenever you guys want to start it.

I used the phrase in jest, but I think we are seeing the fact that when times are rough, it becomes much easier to focus on injustices in the nation. As an example, China's whole political system is "don't question the system and you will prosper" which works since the standard of living has consistently improved. However, what happens when a nation like that suddenly experiences a recession?

This is a great point you are making and I fully agree. When you build your whole political system's legitimacy on economic growth - it is dangerous. Without some wider moral framework people might lose their.. well let's say respect and tolerance at least... towards each other. And even such a simple norm as "each individual has its autonomous rights that cannot be interfered by others" can do wonders. So all what I'm saying is that when you have existence of a state there is always good to have multiple sources of legitimacy for the government.

"Fun" point: Even the most radically individualistic societies (i consider myself as extreme or at least radical individualist) are built on collective imperatives and values that may be minimalist, but needs to be shared massively in the society.

About the RP - the Kalyan Coallition (or FTR) is ready!

Catos and Cerveskia

Antarctican commonwealths

Cerveskia wrote:Free Transhumanists
RP is pretty much ready, just whenever you guys want to start it.

I used the phrase in jest, but I think we are seeing the fact that when times are rough, it becomes much easier to focus on injustices in the nation. As an example, China's whole political system is "don't question the system and you will prosper" which works since the standard of living has consistently improved. However, what happens when a nation like that suddenly experiences a recession?

You don’t mind if I join do you?

Cerveskia and Free Transhumanists

Also... long time ago I wanted go share with you something but I've forgot. So I'm going to share it now if you don't mind.

What I'm talking about is our music - Czech music. I was always saying that all Czech music sucks except one genre.... and that is underground (dissent) music. In my opinion Czech dissent was one of the most interesting ones - it was liberal-left, not liberal-right (nonetheless there happened something that you could call "neoliberal" right-wing economic transformation because it was easier than idealistic visions of our underground).

So to the point. One of icons of our underground culture is person named Karel Kryl, and here are my favorite songs written and sang by him (+ one bonus).

The Caravan of Clouds - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-wVTb8ukbY
The Angel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkdXbPy97OE
Oh My Love - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4D9_a3UTz8
The Pensioner - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7szXmyqA9Y4
Darwin?... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I17iIBV2HPg

.. and one from our lovely vietnamese-czech citizens! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kl02cxijs

If you would like I could translate some lyrics for you of course. But even without lyrics I think these are kind, hopeful... and yet melancholic songs that might please our philosophic minds :-)

PS.: when we are at it... have you heard about sovietwave genre? It's pretty neat new alternative music genre where I also find some songs pretty interesting (example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz75TMHuk6Q).

Environmental Support and Cerveskia

Free Transhumanists wrote:Also... long time ago I wanted go share with you something but I've forgot. So I'm going to share it now if you don't mind.

What I'm talking about is our music - Czech music. I was always saying that all Czech music sucks except one genre.... and that is underground (dissent) music. In my opinion Czech dissent was one of the most interesting ones - it was liberal-left, not liberal-right (nonetheless there happened something that you could call "neoliberal" right-wing economic transformation because it was easier than idealistic visions of our underground).

So to the point. One of icons of our underground culture is person named Karel Kryl, and here are my favorite songs written and sang by him (+ one bonus).

The Caravan of Clouds - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-wVTb8ukbY
The Angel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkdXbPy97OE
Oh My Love - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4D9_a3UTz8
The Pensioner - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7szXmyqA9Y4
Darwin?... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I17iIBV2HPg

.. and one from our lovely vietnamese-czech citizens! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kl02cxijs

If you would like I could translate some lyrics for you of course. But even without lyrics I think these are kind, hopeful... and yet melancholic songs that might please our philosophic minds :-)

PS.: when we are at it... have you heard about sovietwave genre? It's pretty neat new alternative music genre where I also find some songs pretty interesting (example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz75TMHuk6Q).

Sovietwave is a fun genre. I'll give some of those a listen. Always like getting to hear some new genres.

Edit: Having now listened to some of Kryl's songs, they remind me of the acoustic music John Lennon put out early in his solo career

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562275770031144961/718930321143496734/image0.png

Any Hungarians here?

It happened! The new election law was passed on planet Kal (former Khalus) and therefore the third legislative chamber was put to work. The elections were held without further problems and the results were recognized as official and final! Here are the results of the elections to the Civilitáte legislative chamber:

Name of political subject (percentage // number of seats) - (Main political theme: other political themes)

The Rationalists (38,6% // 193 seats) - (Industrial lobby: business subsidization, cartelized market, pro-monopoly, militaristic)

People's Voice Union (28,4% // 142 seats) (Neo-marxism: employee's rights and safety, marketing regulation, consumer's rights)

Unity and Prosperity Party (17,8% // 89 seats) (Conservative: state centralization and unionism, free market)

Followers of Ziran (11,8% // 59 seats) (Religious: post-genderism, transhumanism, pro-augmentation, inclusiveness)

The Artificial Kalyans Party ( 1% // 5 seats) (Civil Rights of AI Citizens: post-genderism, state centralization, computer-planned economy, inclusiveness)

Diversity and Integration Movement (0,8% // 4 seats) (Multicultural: state decentralization, free market, inclusiveness)

The Kalyan Libertarian (0,6% // 3 seats) (Right and Left Libertarianism: free and freed market, market liberalization, anti-monopoly, state reduction and decentralization)

GROUP OF PISSED CITIZENS! - DO SOMETHING! (0,4% // 2 seats) (Anti-Corruption: recession and protest art, art subsidization, protest rights)

Bioconservative Party (0,4% // 2 seats) (Bioconservatism: anti-VAT, anti-augmentation, technology regulation and observation, traditionalism)

Equality and Development (0,2% // 1 seat) (Developmentalist: issue-based urban development, safety, access to education)

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Possible coalitions (only relevant political subjects included)

1. The Rationalists + Unity and Prosperity Party

2. People's Voice Union + Unity and Prosperity Party + Followers of Ziran

A QUESTION TO YOU! Which coalition would you rather see to be formed? Both OOC - your personal perspective, IC - your state's perspective.

Cerveskia

New new zajtahn

Free Transhumanists wrote:It happened! The new election law was passed on planet Kal (former Khalus) and therefore the third legislative chamber was put to work. The elections were held without further problems and the results were recognized as official and final! Here are the results of the elections to the Civilitáte legislative chamber:

Name of political subject (percentage // number of seats) - (Main political theme: other political themes)

The Rationalists (38,6% // 193 seats) - (Industrial lobby: business subsidization, cartelized market, pro-monopoly, militaristic)

People's Voice Union (28,4% // 142 seats) (Neo-marxism: employee's rights and safety, marketing regulation, consumer's rights)

Unity and Prosperity Party (17,8% // 89 seats) (Conservative: state centralization and unionism, free market)

Followers of Ziran (11,8% // 59 seats) (Religious: post-genderism, transhumanism, pro-augmentation, inclusiveness)

The Artificial Kalyans Party ( 1% // 5 seats) (Civil Rights of AI Citizens: post-genderism, state centralization, computer-planned economy, inclusiveness)

Diversity and Integration Movement (0,8% // 4 seats) (Multicultural: state decentralization, free market, inclusiveness)

The Kalyan Libertarian (0,6% // 3 seats) (Right and Left Libertarianism: free and freed market, market liberalization, anti-monopoly, state reduction and decentralization)

GROUP OF PISSED CITIZENS! - DO SOMETHING! (0,4% // 2 seats) (Anti-Corruption: recession and protest art, art subsidization, protest rights)

Bioconservative Party (0,4% // 2 seats) (Bioconservatism: anti-VAT, anti-augmentation, technology regulation and observation, traditionalism)

Equality and Development (0,2% // 1 seat) (Developmentalist: issue-based urban development, safety, access to education)

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Possible coalitions (only relevant political subjects included)

1. The Rationalists + Unity and Prosperity Party

2. People's Voice Union + Unity and Prosperity Party + Followers of Ziran

A QUESTION TO YOU! Which coalition would you rather see to be formed? Both OOC - your personal perspective, IC - your state's perspective.

I like the sound of the Diversity party. Supports the free market AND open to foreigners? Sign me up to pay for all their election campaigns in return for owning all the ariable land to export all the food to foreign markets in the future!

Or sponsoring a Rationalist coup. Either works.

My classes are over but I broke my wrist. Give me a couple more weeks before I can start on the map.

Environmental Support, Catos, Cerveskia, and Antarctican commonwealths

Chat ded

Bernard johnson

New piera wrote:Chat ded

It do be like that sometimes

Cerveskia and Bernard johnson

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