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Trotterdam wrote:

Angels Encarmine: Umm, I don't think these exist? At best they're a nickname for the Blood Angels, or maybe one of their successor chapters. Likely they're just something NationStates made up.

I believe this is a homebrew successor chapter of the Blood Angels. Other than that, we will have to ask The Death World of Kingdom of Circle of Magi.

Trotterdam wrote:Grey Knights: Wear grey, and will probably have you executed for heresy if you spell it "gray"."

I know nothing, I see nothing.

Trotterdam wrote:Not listed in the poll:

Yes, I ran out of room again.

Trotterdam wrote:[Although there's a namedrop-[without-explanation of something called the i]Rainbow Warriors[/i]? In Warhammer!?

That name does sound familiar...

According to the Lexicanum: The Rainbow Warriors are briefly mentioned in Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader, in which a Rainbow Warrior marine is illustrated being shot by an Adepta Sororitas. Their Chapter colors are listed as "multi-coloured".

Beinirham wrote:Yes, I ran out of room again.

You should maybe have considered prioritizing some of these over the chapter that literally doesn't exist.

Beinirham wrote:That name does sound familiar...

Okay, but where can I find out more about them?

All I can find on TVTropes is that they were a First Founding chapter in the game's first edition, but were later retconned into being a successor chapter because the developers liked the idea of two of the First Founding chapters being mysteriously lost to history (so fans can come up with their own fanon). It doesn't say anything about how they actually fight or what they specialize in. (I'm guessing it's not the magic of friendship.)

According to the Lexicanum: The Rainbow Warriors are briefly mentioned in Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader, in which a Rainbow Warrior marine is illustrated being shot by an Adepta Sororitas. Their Chapter colors are listed as "multi-coloured".

Trotterdam wrote:You should maybe have considered prioritizing some of these over the chapter that literally doesn't exist.

Okay, but where can I find out more about them?

All I can find on TVTropes is that they were a First Founding chapter in the game's first edition, but were later retconned into being a successor chapter because the developers liked the idea of two of the First Founding chapters being mysteriously lost to history (so fans can come up with their own fanon). It doesn't say anything about how they actually fight or what they specialize in. (I'm guessing it's not the magic of friendship.)

They wear dark blue with a.rainbow stripe down their forehead. Their home world is called Prism. There was one notable battle, they eventually withdrew after sustaining major losses.
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Rainbow_Warriors

Beinirham wrote:They wear dark blue with a rainbow stripe down their forehead.

Aww. That's kinda underwhelming.

Still, even Rainbow Dash has a sky-blue coat, and the chapter insignia (a lightning bolt with a feathered wing!?) is very pegasus-like.

They look like they could have been interesting if they had more lore.

Trotterdam wrote:Aww. That's kinda underwhelming.

Still, even Rainbow Dash has a sky-blue coat, and the chapter insignia (a lightning bolt with a feathered wing!?) is very pegasus-like.

They look like they could have been interesting if they had more lore.

There is a rainbow colored noise marine of Slaaneesh on Google images. They have electric guitars that spew out sonic energy of some sort to confuse their opponents. https://images.app.goo.gl/GFeekedGmBEuqK7h7

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Beinirham Trotterdam Angels Encarmine do exist, they have one short story, have an entry as successor chapter in some codexes and play a minor role in Devastation of Baal.

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What is your favorite Imperial Guard regiment?
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For those unaware of the difference, I will add descriptions to the RMB at some point.
Also, the Lexicanum is a good source of information: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Guard_Regiment

You know, I find these results kind of worrying. Yes, everyone keeps saying that the Imperium is intentionally written to be dysfunctional, and isn't actually supposed to be in the right. However, the lore, and even moreso the fandom, are kinda wishy-washy about this, and frequently give the impression that they believe the Imperium's bigotry and cruelty actually is justified as necessary. It's hard to draw any other conclusions, when people just keep cheering on their absolute worst parts, first overwhelmingly voting for the Imperium over other factions, and now to the point that the winning Space Marine chapter is the one that I literally described as Space Nazis, who are genocidal even by Imperial standards.

On the other hand, the other two highest scorers were the token reasonable chapters that actually try to minimize collateral damage. I guess people like moral extremes?

And... Imperial Guard regiments? Well, let me look at TVTropes again.

...And the poll refers to everyone by abbreviations rather than their full names, so I underlined the relevant words for easy recognition.

On both the poll and TVTropes:
Armageddon Steel Legion: Mechanized infantry, making heavy use of IFVs/APCs. I think they're supposed to just be the "generic" Imperial Guard regiment, using weapons and tactics that wouldn't look too out of place on a real-life battlefield of today, or perhaps WW2. Umm, wear gas masks because they come from a heavily-polluted hive world (so why do they still need the masks when they're deployed somewhere else?). Fight Orks a lot.
Cadian Shock Troopers: No wait, these are the generic ones. They're described as generalists with broad tactical versatility but no real specialty. They do, though, have lots of experience from living living on the gates of the Eye of Terror, making them the first line of defense against Chaos.
Catachan Jungle Fighters: Guerilla warriors, particularly in jungle terrain. Come from a death world full of hostile wildlife that, for once, isn't affiliated with any of the major factions. It's just hostile wildlife.
Death Korps of Krieg: Former rebels against the Imperium who now seek atonement through honorable death in combat... or that's the official story, anyway. I highly doubt that every single one of them actually feels that way. Still, they use (or are forced to use) reckless suicide tactics, taking the most dangerous missions and paying any cost for victory. Or sometimes just performing pointless bayonet charges that serve only to get them killed.
Mordian Iron Guard: Rigid formation fighters, with iron discipline under fire. Which is a combat style that fell out of style sometime after the Napoleonic Wars, when the development of rifles and machine guns made clumping your soldiers together like that suicidally stupid, but common sense never stopped anyone in Warhammer 40000.
Tallarn Desert Raiders: Space Arabs. Specialize in guerilla tactics, but in desert rather than jungle terrain this time. Also make heavy use of tanks.
Valhallan Ice Warriors: Perhaps the most stereotypical Imperial Guard, they mostly use human wave tactics. Who needs strategy when you can just keep throwing people at the enemy? Despite the name, themed more after Soviet Russians than Vikings, though they're used to cold climates either way.
Vostroyan Firstborn: Another group who are being punished for the crimes of their distant ancestors. Family-oriented, with brotherly bonds between soldiers, and passing down masterwork weapons as heirlooms. Specialize in urban warfare (and also a bit of winter warfare).

On the poll, but not on TVTropes or only mentioned briefly in passing:
Elysian Drop Troopers: Paratroopers, specialized in rapid deployment, especially from the sky.
Praetorian Guard: Lexicanum says they use similar tactics to the Mordian Iron Guard. TVTropes says they're mostly experts at losing, fulfilling the trope of the technologically-advanced army that still gets beaten up by more-primitive savages (Orks, in this case) because of their stupid and inflexible tactics. (The disturbing part is that this implies Orks are more sensible tacticians than the Praetorians. The real-life example they're based on is the British getting clobbered by the Zulus, but that's rather racist because the real Zulus were humans defending their homeland, not senselessly-rampaging Orks, and had the home field advantage.)
Solar Auxilia: ...Who? I can't find these at all, either on TVTropes or on Lexicanum.

On TVTropes, but not on the poll:
Attilan Rough Riders: Space Huns. Cavalry. Differ from the White Scars in that they have more emphasis on melee lance charges rather than mobile ranged combat (although they probably still have some ranged weapons)... and also in that they ride actual horses.
Savlar Chem-Dogs: A penal legion, consisting of criminals sentenced to fight until they die. At least with these ones the Imperium doesn't pretend that they actually like it that way, and actually they're mostly dosed up on drugs to keep them in line. Specialize in battlefield looting and war crimes.

Trotterdam

Solar Auxilia: imperial guard of 30k/ Horus Heresy. They recently got a new line of models so I thought I would include them.

Attilan Rough Riders: in addition to lances and the occasional sabre, they do get lasguns and pistols. Their units are often attached to other regiments

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Trotterdam wrote:Yes, everyone keeps saying that the Imperium is intentionally written to be dysfunctional, and isn't actually supposed to be in the right. However, the lore, and even moreso the fandom, are kinda wishy-washy about this, and frequently give the impression that they believe the Imperium's bigotry and cruelty actually is justified as necessary. It's hard to draw any other conclusions, when people just keep cheering on their absolute worst parts, first overwhelmingly voting for the Imperium over other factions, and now to the point that the winning Space Marine chapter is the one that I literally described as Space Nazis, who are genocidal even by Imperial standards.

I think you're actually correct in your conclusions. And I think one possible explanation may be found in the type of people who tend to be attracted to 40K, in the first place, which is often folks who are into things like military science fiction and historical wargaming. I speak from experience, being somewhat in that world, and having had many friends and family who were far more into it than myself. Though this is in no way an absolute or anything, in my experience, these are people who may also be attracted to things like Prussian militarism, or chivalric depictions of the American civil war, or the medieval military orders. They like reading about these regimented systems and orderly depictions of a militarized society and romantic crusades and whatnot. And a love of military science fiction makes the "space marine" a very attractive figure, not just in 40K but in various other properties, too. But 40K has no "good" space marines, so the fans take what they can get.

This is all to say, I think much of the fanbase is prone to reading about a strong empire going out and projecting force, and far less interested in moral nuances. They just want to immerse in the world of the Space Roman Empire and follow the exploits of their space legions against the many alien barbarians that surround them. Military history fans of the Roman Empire tend not to get caught up about whether the empire is justified in whatever war it is fighting; they just want to analyze the tactics and get into the minutia of the weapons and gear. So, lots of 40K fans are going to excuse the many, many sins of the Imperium, as they revel in its glorious space crusades.

Or, like me, you could just take the side of the Orks, and not need to worry about whether they are good, at all :P

Black Ships wrote:Military history fans of the Roman Empire tend not to get caught up about whether the empire is justified in whatever war it is fighting; they just want to analyze the tactics and get into the minutia of the weapons and gear.

Yeah, but... the Black Templars don't use interesting tactics. They're the archetypal "charge the enemy waving chainswords" Marines (along with the Blood Angels, but the Blood Angels at least try restrain it, so they're interesting if you like people struggling against inner demons). In some editions they've had to take Leadership tests in order to be able to do anything other than attack the closest enemy. Being genocidal bigots is their entire theme.

If you want cool weapons, then the Salamanders, who are weaponsmiths in addition to soldiers, are a good place to look. (They don't just use flamethrowers, even though those are their favorite.) If you want tactics, then the Raven Guard, White Scars, or Imperial Fists have interesting (and sensible) approaches to warfare.

For that matter, if you just like berserkers who smash skulls in melee, then the Space Wolves also do that while being more noble.

Black Ships wrote:Or, like me, you could just take the side of the Orks, and not need to worry about whether they are good, at all

At least Orks are weirdly egalitarian. They'll cheerfully attack anything, including other Orks :)

Trotterdam wrote:Yeah, but... the Black Templars don't use interesting tactics.

Alas, I have no answers for the particular preferences of the chapters. Just for the love of the space marines, themselves.

I will say, though, that though their tactics may not be interesting, I bet they still have cool weapons and gear :P

Trotterdam wrote:At least Orks are weirdly egalitarian. They'll cheerfully attack anything, including other Orks :)

Take that, Tau. Who are the space communists now?

Black Ships wrote:Alas, I have no answers for the particular preferences of the chapters. Just for the love of the space marines, themselves.

I will say, though, that though their tactics may not be interesting, I bet they still have cool weapons and gear :P

Take that, Tau. Who are the space communists now?

What are space communists?

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Ferrari F138 wrote:What are space communists?

Do you know the Pigs in Space? They're like that, except communists instead of hogs.

Black Ships wrote:Do you know the Pigs in Space? They're like that, except communists instead of hogs.

K

So, it seems that the Death Korps of Krieg are popular.

I missed the poll, but would have voted Catachan. I wasn't previously overly-familiar with them, but Beinirham has really made them seem pretty cool. Like a whole planet of people made up of the cast from "Predator". Otherwise, maybe I would've chosen Necromunda, because they look like 1980s post-apocalyptic freaks.

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