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Pinochetus wrote:Missing an option.

I want to vote for
"The virus is serious and more people will die, but our civil rights and constitution are more important and the country should re-open."

You're right. I wish I would have thought of that when I was writing the poll.

Reed audio

There is no evidence that the locdowns have "saved lives" - even taking account of lower population density of most non "lockdown" States these States have NOT had a higher death rate than lockdown States.

But the discussion is moot anyway - as the economy is being crippled by DEBT, so people have to go back to work (it they still have jobs to go back to).

By the way - the "protests" are really uprisings organised by white Marxists.

Reed audio wrote:

By the way - the "protests" are really uprisings organised by white Marxists.

Say what now :o

Knockturn Alley wrote:Say what now :o

What do you think Antifa is - it is mostly white, and dominated by Marxism.

Sure they get black people to throw the bricks - but they pile up the bricks for them to throw (and are involved in pushing a lot worse violence - pushing other people to do it, whilst they stay in the background).

Tim Pool has been reporting the Marxists for years - and he is a man of the moderate LEFT.

The Marxists do not care about black people - they are USING them.

Xyanth and Lightning city

Knockturn Alley wrote:Say what now :o

Marxists employing useful idiots in the finest traditions of Lenin and Stalin.

Xyanth wrote:To open or not to open? That is the question.

The COVID 19 virus is a killer. There is no disputing that fact. However it is becoming painfully clear the CDC got it wrong. Back in March, the CDC was telling us that by this time under the best case scenario, we would be stacking bodies like cord wood and there would be a 10-20 to one demand for ICU beds. We were told lethality rate of those infected would be around five percent across the board. Turns out that kill rate is around 0.04% and most of those deaths are in people with other things working against them like age, COPD, immunity problems, etc.

In March we were told this was one really hearty virus outside the host. They told us this thing could live for nine days on a metal surface at room temperature. Now... not so much. They told us that warm weather is a friend to the virus. Now they say sunlight kills it. And now we are hearing that medical examiners are writing COVID on the death certificate of anyone that dies of anything even remotely respiratory related.

So here we sit, on the very brink of a financial collapse it will take decades to recover from. Some people want the nation open. Other people want the world shut.

By the power vested in me, I put you in charge. Whatcha' gonna do?

New poll is up.

I support option 3 and 4. Businesses would want to start with outdoor venues first, that's what they're doing now but they may not want to rush and let a lot of people into their businesses if they ain't got the proper shield protections setup already. We definitely don't need this flying around because even I predicted that without the Government's help, it would have shutdown businesses because people would need time to heal from it and it's very contagious and hides before making itself known; meaning everyone would get it and not know they have it causing a mass disturbance to the domestic economy(Remember its not Wall Street that runs the economy, it's the people who do).

Then I believe the disease is not as dangerous as we thought because I know people with underlying health issues, who had it and recovered from it. Also, we would have been able to limit the spread if businesses just set-up protections for their staff and goods or changed the way the operate to adjust for the outbreak, and then cleaned their facilities when they're about to close.

Landlordia

Had to explain to someone on Facebook about why and how the U.S. Government would have a digitalized currency. The person was also mocking the idea that digitalization of U.S. currency is something many would have to worry about, it's like he doesn't understand how much people get away with things just because of the fact that the flow of U.S. Dollars is not centrally monitored on a daily basis.

Landlordia wrote:Had to explain to someone on Facebook about why and how the U.S. Government would have a digitalized currency. The person was also mocking the idea that digitalization of U.S. currency is something many would have to worry about, it's like he doesn't understand how much people get away with things just because of the fact that the flow of U.S. Dollars is not centrally monitored on a daily basis.

Once the US goes to a digital currency, other than barter, there will be no such thing as a private transaction.

Reed audio and Landlordia

So... How long do you think the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone will last and how will it end?

Landlordia

Xyanth wrote:So... How long do you think the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone will last and how will it end?

I'm hoping long enough for me to visit. This is the first lawless area of the U.S. to be established in a city. Others are away from the cities and you have to do some searching for them. This one I can catch a flight and check out. The Mayor of Seattle, so far is allowing the area to exist, but once her term ends, we can't say that the next Mayor will be so eager to let it continue on existing. They're having some shortages in food and will have to wait until their gardens sprout some mature produce. They also have shortages in basic necessities like toilet and other things, but I believe they can overcome that with help from people on the outside who support their area.

Xyanth wrote:To open or not to open? That is the question.

The COVID 19 virus is a killer. There is no disputing that fact. However it is becoming painfully clear the CDC got it wrong. Back in March, the CDC was telling us that by this time under the best case scenario, we would be stacking bodies like cord wood and there would be a 10-20 to one demand for ICU beds. We were told lethality rate of those infected would be around five percent across the board. Turns out that kill rate is around 0.04% and most of those deaths are in people with other things working against them like age, COPD, immunity problems, etc.

In March we were told this was one really hearty virus outside the host. They told us this thing could live for nine days on a metal surface at room temperature. Now... not so much. They told us that warm weather is a friend to the virus. Now they say sunlight kills it. And now we are hearing that medical examiners are writing COVID on the death certificate of anyone that dies of anything even remotely respiratory related.

So here we sit, on the very brink of a financial collapse it will take decades to recover from. Some people want the nation open. Other people want the world shut.

By the power vested in me, I put you in charge. Whatcha' gonna do?

New poll is up.

Us capitalists need to stick together.

Reed audio and Xyanth

Landlordia wrote:I'm hoping long enough for me to visit. This is the first lawless area of the U.S. to be established in a city. Others are away from the cities and you have to do some searching for them. This one I can catch a flight and check out. The Mayor of Seattle, so far is allowing the area to exist, but once her term ends, we can't say that the next Mayor will be so eager to let it continue on existing. They're having some shortages in food and will have to wait until their gardens sprout some mature produce. They also have shortages in basic necessities like toilet and other things, but I believe they can overcome that with help from people on the outside who support their area.

ROFL!!!

What they are not going to be able to overcome is the righteous ass kicking they are going to get at the hands of the police and courts when someone in Washington state finally grows a pair and breaks up their love fest.

Reed audio

Things escalated into a shooting the other day during the attempted vandalism of a statue, err... I meant during a peaceful protest of a monument to oppression in Albuquerque. A man opposed to the destruction of the statue found his way physically blocked by a female protestor. After a couple of missed attempts at passing her, the man flung her out of his way and to the ground.[1]

After that incident, he tried to leave the scene.

The peaceful protestors had different ideas, alternately screaming for his head and shouting to "get his plate number." Some of those peaceful protestors pursued him for roughly half a city block yelling threats at him. At the end of that pursuit, at least four peaceful protestors assaulted him.

During the melee one protestor picked up a skate board and walloped the man in the head. That protestor also had what may have been a knife in his left hand, holding both the skateboard and the knife in that hand. Upon striking the man, the protestor lost the skateboard, but still has something in his left hand.

After being struck by that skateboard, all while several others were attempting to beat that man while shouting "we'll kill you," he drew a gun and shot skateboard boy four times.[2] Stepping through the video one frame at a time, one can see that the shooter is clearly focused on skateboard boy's left had as he drew his weapon. One can also clearly see skateboard boy drop something long and shiny from his left hand as he falls. That object skitters beyond skateboard boy along the pavement.[3]

For some reason, once the shooting started, the crowd's will to kick that man's ass dropped to zero. Go figure.

Ironically enough, after the shots rang out, those cop hating protestors were shouting "call 911." As the police approached, they were shouting, "Help us!"[3]

With the amount of hate in this nation right now, are you surprised it has not happened already? Was this just a fluke, someone brought a skateboard to a gun fight? Or is this just the beginning of armed conflict in this nation?

The poll is up.
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[1] https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1272915414008258562
[2] https://www.abqjournal.com/1466753/apd-protest-shooter-arrested-charged-with-aggravated-battery.html#
[3] This video is kind of hard to watch. The video contains violence, many four letter words and a shooting. If this is something you can handle, it is interesting to see for yourself the difference between what the news people told us happened and how it really went down. Stuff gets real shortly after the 4:00 mark.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/248490698901507/permalink/982797758804127/

Reed audio

Xyanth wrote:ROFL!!!

What they are not going to be able to overcome is the righteous ass kicking they are going to get at the hands of the police and courts when someone in Washington state finally grows a pair and breaks up their love fest.

Well hopefully not. If they're willing to make some external deals, they may be allowed to continue on.

Landlordia wrote:Well hopefully not. If they're willing to make some external deals, they may be allowed to continue on.

It is not their property - they are threatening people and stealing, then need to be in prison.

These are MARXISTS - they are not going to produce anything good, they are only going to kill and destroy. And the products of the same demented education system that produced the Democrat Mayor and Governor. It is time that taxpayers were no longer forced to pay for far left schools (and the children are being brainwashed from a very young age) and backing "student loans" for far universities teaching endless Collectivist propaganda.

Reed audio wrote:It is not their property - they are threatening people and stealing, then need to be in prison.

These are MARXISTS - they are not going to produce anything good, they are only going to kill and destroy. And the products of the same demented education system that produced the Democrat Mayor and Governor. It is time that taxpayers were no longer forced to pay for far left schools (and the children are being brainwashed from a very young age) and backing "student loans" for far universities teaching endless Collectivist propaganda.

They're not all marxists. The African-Americans there, don't really believe in all that stuff, the far left-wingers just show you the ones that do. Also violent acts will happen anywhere because there are violent people in every group and in every society. I have seen videos of CHAZ by those of different ideologies who went there to see it for themselves, they were not threatened and nor was the crowd threatening anybody in those videos; now I'm not denying that there are people who are possibly doing that, I'm just stating that it's not the majority from what I have seen. Now they did steal property, that is true, I wish they would have went about it differently instead wrecking small businesses and taking their goods. The police station is public property(because its funded by stolen money), so it doesn't matter if they continue to control that precinct.

I wish the small businesses owners got a say so and I am going to contact members of CHAZ to try to encourage them to hear out the small business owners and work something out.

They're growing some crops that seem to be growing nicely, but the time of produce being sprouted will take a while. I was talking to members of anarcho-synergy about forming contracts with CHAZ to build them up economically. The only thing is not all members of CHAZ are anarchist, so it will be hard to bring forth any anarchist philosophy and principles into the land for there are a small number who believe in anarchism within CHAZ and few who are willing to make economic progress. I am still willing to try and help them get into economic advancement and hopefully members of anarcho-synergy are as well.

Turning away from the Marxists (Antifa, BLM and so on) and their beloved Marxist Venezuela and Cuba.

It is now very clear that the lockdowns did NOT save lives - the death rate was not higher in States that did NOT lockdown, even taking account of their generally more rural nature. What has cost lives is Democrat Governors FORCING Care Homes to accept infected people and then locking down - with the infected people left in a confined space to infect other elderly people. There was also bad medical care in the New York area - brute force ventilators rather than intelligent care.

The point about the virus is not so much that people can not physically breath (although that is sometimes the case), but rather that the cells of the lungs are compromised at the micro level so they can no longer get as much oxygen to the blood. The treatment for this is either to prevent the undermining of the lungs (a hotly disputed area - a combination of medicines may work, of the disease is caught early, or may NOT work) - and certainly providing oxygen to those need it (not at stupid high pressure that damages the lungs).

One can not HIDE from the virus - for example Texas had a lockdown, but is now having a surge of cases (which the media is making a lot of noise about). Piling up DEBT with lockdowns does NOT prevent you getting exposed in the end. You can not have endless lockdowns.

Bite the bullet - have courage. And I write as someone who is old and has compromised lungs.

Landlordia we will have to "agree to disagree".

But if these people wish to buy land and have a commune somewhere - that is fine by me.

As for "African Americas" - whilst their self appointed representatives continue to claim that the killing of George Floyd was about "race" (it was not). and continue not to care about the killing of DAVID DORN (and so many other black people - who are somehow not black to the "activists"), I am not impressed.

Landlordia wrote:Well hopefully not. If they're willing to make some external deals, they may be allowed to continue on.

Deals with who? The City? The property owners? The people living in the area?

Last I heard, the only deals anyone is looking to make are local business owners looking to hire weapon wielding thugs to keep the "peaceful protesters" from cleaning them out.

Landlordia wrote:They're not all marxists.

**ROFL!!!**

Yes they are. They are communist revolutionaries right out of the early 1900's.

I seriously believe you failed history.

Landlordia wrote:I have seen videos of CHAZ by those of different ideologies who went there to see it for themselves, they were not threatened and nor was the crowd threatening anybody in those videos;

**ROFL again...**

Stop, dude, you're killing me. You saw the video those people wanted you to see. How do you explain the explain the two dead and one wounded from the shootings over the weekend? Or the assaults, rapes, and robberies inside the zone.

Landlordia wrote:The police station is public property(because its funded by stolen money), so it doesn't matter if they continue to control that precinct.

**ROFL one more time...**

Are you serious or are you just trying to jerk our chains?

Landlordia wrote:I wish the small businesses owners got a say so and I am going to contact members of CHAZ to try to encourage them to hear out the small business owners and work something out.

**smirk**

Let us know how that works out. Better yet, I think you should go there yourself and set up a homestead. Someone opened your idea of paradise. Go there and live it for real.

Landlordia wrote:They're growing some crops that seem to be growing nicely, but the time of produce being sprouted will take a while.

With that statement you demonstrate your profound ignorance of agriculture. Seriously, dude, if all those crops come in, how many people/days of food do you think they are going to get from patch?

Landlordia wrote:I was talking to members of anarcho-synergy about forming contracts with CHAZ to build them up economically.

Can you say aiding and abetting rioters?

Landlordia wrote:The only thing is not all members of CHAZ are anarchist, so it will be hard to bring forth any anarchist philosophy and principles into the land for there are a small number who believe in anarchism within CHAZ and few who are willing to make economic progress. I am still willing to try and help them get into economic advancement and hopefully members of anarcho-synergy are as well.

The people in the CHAZ, n/k/a the CHOP, don't know if they are Marxists, Socialists, Anarchists, or toilet seats.

Reed audio wrote:But if these people wish to buy land and have a commune somewhere - that is fine by me.

These people don't think they have to buy anything. As Landlordia said above, they think it was all stolen so they can just steal it back.

Reed audio wrote:I am not impressed.

Me either.

Reed audio wrote:Landlordia we will have to "agree to disagree".

But if these people wish to buy land and have a commune somewhere - that is fine by me.

As for "African Americas" - whilst their self appointed representatives continue to claim that the killing of George Floyd was about "race" (it was not). and continue not to care about the killing of DAVID DORN (and so many other black people - who are somehow not black to the "activists"), I am not impressed.

My fellow African-Americans of today definitely have become very ignorant of the reality of things, but I see that they are slowly coming out of it and realizing there is just a problem with police brutality in general. It's very slow, but hopefully they get there soon. I had seen some of my liberal black friends criticize political correctness and talk about how outrageous its getting. I see a turn around coming along soon.

Landlordia

Xyanth wrote:Deals with who? The City? The property owners? The people living in the area?

Last I heard, the only deals anyone is looking to make are local business owners looking to hire weapon wielding thugs to keep the "peaceful protesters" from cleaning them out.

Deals with people outside of CHAZ, which I'm currently trying to encourage them to do.

Xyanth wrote:**ROFL!!!**

Yes they are. They are communist revolutionaries right out of the early 1900's.

I seriously believe you failed history.

ANTIFA yes, but CHAZ is not full of ANTIFA members. It has black activists who are not for all that stuff ANTIFA normally preaches about. The area only exists because they want changes made in the political system before they give up the area. Only certain members want it to keep going.

I don't think you're paying attention to the situation entirely, just reacting to what you hate about it.

Xyanth wrote:**ROFL again...**

Stop, dude, you're killing me. You saw the video those people wanted you to see. How do you explain the explain the two dead and one wounded from the shootings over the weekend? Or the assaults, rapes, and robberies inside the zone.

Well you're talking about two different things here. I'll address the first. The videos I saw were posted by members of the Libertarian Party checking out the area for themselves, they posted a good number of videos of CHAZ in the Libertarian Party group I am in on Facebook. I also saw an individual recorded video by someone unaffiliated with members of CHAZ, who runs the Anarcho-Synergy Facebook page, go to the area at night and recorded how things were at night.

The shootings that happened recently was investigated by two streamers, one guy who resides in the area and another guy from some other neighborhood who was later approached by some guard of CHAZ and told that he should, "Get the hell out of here, if you don't live in the area. The shooting is just old Seattle gang related s**t, but my advice for you is to get the hell outta of here if you don't live here."; clearly that man had no connections to CHAZ and was not posting what they wanted people to see, sense that's what you're claiming. The man who resides in the area, was also told that the shootings were old Seattle gang related feuds that made it's way into the area around Olive Street, near the park. However, both of their streams of night activity in CHAZ were pretty quiet and not much going on besides the investigating of the shootings that occurred.

Also what about the robberies, the whole area was stolen remember. They stole stuff out the small businesses too, so talking about the reports of robbery in the area really shouldn't be surprising to any degree.

Also I wasn't denying that there was criminal activity going on there. I just said that it wasn't the majority of people engaging in those reported criminal matters of the shootings and rape allegations based off what I had seen from the videos. Like I have mentioned and you can see for yourself, the nights in CHAZ were pretty quiet and nothing really going on. However, I know no society is perfect and I don't pretend like they are.

Xyanth wrote:**ROFL one more time...**

Are you serious or are you just trying to jerk our chains?

Yes I'm serious, taxation is theft. The police are funded through tax dollars, which is just stolen money. The local Government of Seattle claims ownership of the precinct because they paid for it with the stolen money, so really the precinct is not Government property, its public property sense the public's money was taken from them involuntarily and used to pay for that precinct.

Stop acting like you don't know this.

Xyanth wrote:**smirk**

Let us know how that works out. Better yet, I think you should go there yourself and set up a homestead. Someone opened your idea of paradise. Go there and live it for real.

I wanna visit, but I ain't staying there. They're not really an autonomous area which is why they changed the name to CHOP. Also it's not my ideal paradise because there is no unregulated Capitalism going on there, I'm trying to open a way for that to start over there. I'm sure AnCaps would like to join in but only if members of CHAZ were really trying to be a non-Government controlled area and were okay with allowing some people to practice Anarcho-Capitalism there.

I'll say it once again, you're not understanding/paying-attention-to the situation of CHAZ entirely, just reacting out of ignorance.

Xyanth wrote:With that statement you demonstrate your profound ignorance of agriculture. Seriously, dude, if all those crops come in, how many people/days of food do you think they are going to get from patch?

Once again, you don't know me because if you did, you would know that I grew my own produce before. It takes time for them to mature, I didn't say it will take forever, just that with all those people and high demand, it will take awhile.

Also, I never said they had enough crop for the large group of people within the area, but I did go on to say that I was talking to members of Anarcho-Synergy to make contracts with CHAZ, to build them up economically; I stated that because their internal economy they currently have won't last very long if they don't build outside connections to build it up.

Another thing, my statement about talking to members of Anarcho-Synergy about building contracts with CHAZ also answered your first question about them building contracts with who. You would know that if you were actually paying attention to what I was saying.

Xyanth wrote:Can you say aiding and abetting rioters?

Well I denounced their methods in the establishment of the area already, and said I would try to help get the small business owners a voice in CHAZ, so you're statement here is pretty ridiculous.

Landlordia

Landlordian Corporations: Let us dump our waste in the water!

The Kory Foundation: Mess with our business of the environment and we'll beat your a**!

Landlordian Corporations: Nevermind.

Landlordia

Been meaning to make funny memes about Landlordia's functionality for awhile:

United States Border Operation: Come on in with proper paperwork and we will pay you with money from our taxpayers.

Landlordian Border Operation: If you manage to make it through the not very inviting Landlordians at the borders of our cities, then you're welcome to stay with no pay and no free services from The Kory Foundation.

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