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Melanocytes wrote:both are awful, but i feel like if the fourth crusade didnt happen the ERE would still be here today. thoughts?

I agree, but my answer is 1071, the Battle of Manzikert. If that battle was won by the Byzantines, there would have never been a fourth crusade that would lead to 1453

Melanocytes wrote:both are awful, but i feel like if the fourth crusade didnt happen the ERE would still be here today. thoughts?

I am in agreement. But I think the Empire could've still recovered, were it not for the infighting and intrigues of the Palaiologos Era. The decisions by the Emperors and various Hierarchs to bend the knee to the Pope in return for military aid (as evidenced in 1272, and 1439) also badly affected the People's morale, I think.

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Nea byzantia wrote:I am in agreement. But I think the Empire could've still recovered, were it not for the infighting and intrigues of the Palaiologos Era. The decisions by the Emperors and various Hierarchs to bend the knee to the Pope in return for military aid (as evidenced in 1272, and 1439) also badly affected the People's morale, I think.

Not to mention that the crusaders more often alienated the Eastern-Roman people more than they really helped.

The eastern-roman empire wrote:Not to mention that the crusaders more often alienated the Eastern-Roman people more than they really helped.

Without a doubt; the Crusader States in Greece were terrible.

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Nea byzantia wrote:Without a doubt; the Crusader States in Greece were terrible.

If you think they were horrible, you should've scene what the Crusaders did when they first arrived in Anatolia!

Is it just me or does a lot of the Fourth Crusade make sense if you see the Western attack on Eastern Rome as an angry response to being shown how backwards you are? The Franks must have felt like steppe people compared to the still-intact classical architecture and art of the Romans.

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Beggnig wrote:Is it just me or does a lot of the Fourth Crusade make sense if you see the Western attack on Eastern Rome as an angry response to being shown how backwards you are? The Franks must have felt like steppe people compared to the still-intact classical architecture and art of the Romans.

I wish it were that simple, the Fourth Crusade was just another example of crusaders failing at their jobs and acting stupid. The only reason they even went to Constantinople was to get money to pay of the Venetians because an idiot Byzantine prince thought it was a good idea to promise the Crusaders that he would make Eastern Rome Catholic and lots of money so he could be emperor. (He was almost immediately deposed by native Byzantines and the crusaders went ham on the city)

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Also they weren't any Franks anymore. I think your referring to the French and Germans, who normally made up the composition of Crusader armies.

What is everyone's favourite movie?

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Nea byzantia wrote:What is everyone's favourite movie?

I like me some Lord of the Rings.

-montenegro and Nea byzantia

The eastern-roman empire wrote:I like me some Lord of the Rings.

Me too...I like me some Indiana Jones too.

-montenegro and The eastern-roman empire

The eastern-roman empire wrote:I like me some Lord of the Rings.

Which Lord of the Rings is best Lord of the Rings in your opinion?

love LOTR, star wars is my favourite series probably

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Nea byzantia wrote:Which Lord of the Rings is best Lord of the Rings in your opinion?

Two Towers, best battle in my opinion

Melanocytes wrote:love LOTR, star wars is my favourite series probably

I am also a fan of star wars

-montenegro

Nea byzantia

The eastern-roman empire wrote:Two Towers, best battle in my opinion

I am also a fan of star wars

The eastern-roman empire wrote:Two Towers, best battle in my opinion

I am also a fan of star wars

Cool... me too...what is the best Star Wars movie, in your opinion?

-montenegro and The eastern-roman empire

The eastern-roman empire wrote:Two Towers, best battle in my opinion

I am also a fan of star wars

two towers for sure haha, for star wars it goes 5,4,3,6,1,7,2,8 rouge ones solid and han solo was meh

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Nea byzantia wrote:Cool... me too...what is the best Star Wars movie, in your opinion?

I liked empire strikes back.

Best of each series in my opinion: Twin Towers, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Empire Strikes Back

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-montenegro wrote:Twin Towers

Yes that movie had high ratings in the Middle East.

-montenegro wrote:Best of each series in my opinion: Twin Towers, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Empire Strikes Back

But I do agree that those are great movies. (:

-montenegro

Anyone else got a favourite Emperor of Eastern Rome? Mine would have to be Justinian.

Melanocytes and -montenegro

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Definitely Justinian

-montenegro wrote:Definitely Justinian

Obviously Justinian II...

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Beggnig wrote:Anyone else got a favourite Emperor of Eastern Rome? Mine would have to be Justinian.

Constantine, but he was ruler of all Rome.

Constantine Palaelogus, the marble King.

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