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Supierland wrote:Screw it, poll time!

If it’s illegal it will be taken down, go for it

Sheepiania wrote:And here comes sheep to ruin this wonderful party…

I love being on a political island… it’s my favorite thing in the world.

So… Dobbs v Jackson WHO… here is my opinion:
I’m going to start off with my general opinion on abortion~ I do not support abortion at any time unless~ the life of the mother is critically endangered, the baby is the product of incest, and in most instances of rape.

That said, abortion is an intensely cultural issue. Cultural opinions differ broadly by region and state. The majority of the state of say West Virginia, will not have the same opinion as say California. Holding the entire nation, and all cultures and people within it, to the same cultural position on abortion is an extremely flawed and poor decision. It drives an intense divide between states and people at a time of great division and tension. Allowing each state to make its own decision on abortion allows the majority of each state to make its own laws of which the majority of its population will be happy to comply with. I also believe that the alleged impacts of this decision have been by far overblown. The states as according to the Washington post listed as going to or likely to ban abortion account for ~20% of all abortions in the U.S.
Some of these people are likely fence sitters who may have not had an abortion, taking out a few of those percentage points, others are able to go to other states, taking out a few more, some would receive the by mail pills some states are unrolling, there goes a few more percent, others still would have been allowed to go ahead. So now we are probably down to single digits of percent of women, and the fact that miscarriages are sometimes considered “abortions” on paperwork, potentially slightly skewing the original numbers, really at the end of the day isn’t effecting all that many people. Unless they were raped, I have a very hard time at this point in my life of pitying them- you got pregnant- that’s on you- time to be accountable for your actions.

At the end of the day- if California wants to slaughter babies and Texas wants to infringe on womens rights- ok whatever

Sargk I understand your concern with the other three decisions but you have to understand that some of the other conservatives in their concurrences disagreed with the conclusion that this may affect the other decisions, meaning that I do not believe that these being overturned is significantly low.

Personally on these issues I believe that same sex marriage being legal is okay, because I believe that marriage in the eyes of the law is separate from marriage in the eyes of religion. I also believe that contraception is also important for preventing the transmission of deadly diseases and in its other uses- i.e. period control.

How dare you deny the poor american women their basic human right of having unprotected sex without facing consequences.

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Nova Tyrnavia wrote:How dare you deny the poor american women their basic human right of having unprotected sex without facing consequences.

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Ah yes, how dare I
I assume the quote is a joke

I am disappointed in the modern Republican Party and modern conservatism. Reagan ruined the country.

I personally wouldn't want my future wife to have an abortion. But I don't care what society does beyond my family.

Sheepiania wrote:Ah yes, how dare I
I assume the quote is a joke

My favourite, fascism is when X.

The North American Unified States wrote:I am disappointed in the modern Republican Party and modern conservatism. Reagan ruined the country.

I could stand to disagree, but Reagan was a turning point.
I just wish the Republican Party cough cough trump would think before they spoke more. Oh well

Supierland wrote:I personally wouldn't want my future wife to have an abortion. But I don't care what society does beyond my family.

I’ve come to the conclusion that what the rest of society does is out of my control so it isn’t worth worrying about.

Supierland wrote:Screw it, poll time!

I want to be clear in what Yay and Nay represent in the poll. Does Yay mean in favor of today's ruling and Nay against it? Or, Yay meaning in support of women's access to abortion and Nay opposed to it?

Wow, that’s a terrible poll.
No offense to who put it up.
We have a Debate Region, if anyone wants to organize a specific topic within the context of abortion, you are invited to send Us and the Debate Organizer a telegram.

Republic of Mesque wrote:Wow, that’s a terrible poll.
No offense to who put it up.
We have a Debate Region, if anyone wants to organize a specific topic within the context of abortion, you are invited to send Us and the Debate Organizer a telegram.

Bing bong your opinion is wrong.

New Sylvan wrote:I want to be clear in what Yay and Nay represent in the poll. Does Yay mean in favor of today's ruling and Nay against it? Or, Yay meaning in support of women's access to abortion and Nay opposed to it?

Abortion as a concept

Supierland wrote:Bing bong your opinion is wrong.

Dude, you have to speak to royalty like royalty!

"Balderdash baloney, your stance on the matter is most dourly incorrect, Your Majesty."

Republic of Mesque wrote:Wow, that’s a terrible poll.
No offense to who put it up.
We have a Debate Region, if anyone wants to organize a specific topic within the context of abortion, you are invited to send Us and the Debate Organizer a telegram.

We could re open the one we had a few weeks ago

I feel somewhat of a hypocrite. I'm fairly libertarian so I belive in the right for women - *birthing people???* - to have access to abortion facilities.

But like what supierland said, I wouldn't want to be with a woman who had aborted a baby or for that matter be with a woman who wants to have an abortion, especially if its mine.

I don't know how I can reconcile it.

Its probably like someone saying I'm fine with legalising same-sex marriage as long as my daughter isn't homosexual.

It's human nature I suppose, you're fine with as long as it's near you or affects you
(Disclaimer, I'm not saying honosexuality is an affliction in the above statement, it was just a figure of speech)

Republic of Mesque wrote:Wow, that’s a terrible poll.
No offense to who put it up.
We have a Debate Region, if anyone wants to organize a specific topic within the context of abortion, you are invited to send Us and the Debate Organizer a telegram.

Not a fan of the debate region, not going to lie. Everything we tried to push there died with no response. Its not like this message board is seeing too much traffic, especially compared to the event days when there is 100+ messages a day. Feels more natural talking here, anyone can give his opinion without being reminded to check some other RMB or being tagged there.

Ah yes, we are now living in a world where if the court rules against your side in any major way, it is completely reasonable to call it illegitimate. Just because your side didn’t get to cherry pick the majority of the justices doesn’t mean the court is illegitimate. You lost the election, the senate played a smart hand of political cards, RBG kicked the bucket, and trump got to appoint three judges. I’m sure there will come a day when the table will have flipped, but I know I won’t be blaming it on an “illegitimate institution” if it rules against me.

People need to get a life

Nova Tyrnavia wrote:Not a fan of the debate region, not going to lie. Everything we tried to push there died with no response. Its not like this message board is seeing too much traffic, especially compared to the event days when there is 100+ messages a day. Feels more natural talking here, anyone can give his opinion without being reminded to check some other RMB or being tagged there.

The main thing is that the Debate Region can be used to set up specific conversations about specific topics, without disrupting procedures.
In theory, we were supposed to be discussing Legislative elections, which come after the PM election, and the reform of the Adoption of a Law.
Those who are interested in the specific topic of abortion may go to the Debate Region, for example, to check if there is a discussion there that interests them.
If anything, it will prevent this RMB to become an unruly mess if the region ever grows larger and more active.

Following the decision of the SCOTUS, I heard that members of the french National Assembly proposed a bill to enshrine the right to abortion in the constitution, and Borne's government declared a few minutes ago that they are going to endorse it.

Sargk, Shahi Bengal, and Eli empire

Eli empire

France Europe is this war going to do anything to my empire?

France Europe wrote:Following the decision of the SCOTUS, I heard that members of the french National Assembly proposed a bill to enshrine the right to abortion in the constitution, and Borne's government declared a few minutes ago that they are going to endorse it.

Funny, our constitution is the exact opposite, it bans abortion with no exceptions.

Eli empire wrote:France Europe is this war going to do anything to my empire?

I guess you are refering to the telegram where you asked about wars.

In NationStates, there is no 'war' function on the website, but you can create such international interactions yourself through factbooks or message boards.

Eli empire

Nova Tyrnavia wrote:Funny, our constitution is the exact opposite, it bans abortion with no exceptions.

I thought that abortion was 100% legal in the country you live in.

France Europe wrote:I thought that abortion was 100% legal in the country you live in.

Yes it is, up to 3 months, with no reason given. But the constitution still says otherwise. Our laws completely ignore it. My favourite line from the constitution is "Podľa tohto článku nie je porušením práv, ak bol niekto pozbavený života v súvislosti s konaním, ktoré podľa zákona nie je trestné."

This is the last line from the first paragraph of basic human rights (the right to live). Can be translated as - it is not illegal to end human life by action that is deemed legal by law.
Selfdefense is legal by law and yet you cannot shoot an attacker armed with a knife, machette, hammer, or a gun if he doesnt shoot first. Even when you are being robbed or held hostage at your own house.

Our constitution and laws in practise are a completely different thing and the constitutional court is a joke.

Nova Tyrnavia wrote:Yes it is, up to 3 months, with no reason given. But the constitution still says otherwise. Our laws completely ignore it. My favourite line from the constitution is "Podľa tohto článku nie je porušením práv, ak bol niekto pozbavený života v súvislosti s konaním, ktoré podľa zákona nie je trestné."

This is the last line from the first paragraph of basic human rights (the right to live). Can be translated as - it is not illegal to end human life by action that is deemed legal by law.
Selfdefense is legal by law and yet you cannot shoot an attacker armed with a knife, machette, hammer, or a gun if he doesnt shoot first. Even when you are being robbed or held hostage at your own house.

Our constitution and laws in practise are a completely different thing and the constitutional court is a joke.

I understand your point. How useful is the Constitution if laws can ignore it?

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