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South-east antarctica wrote:It is funny how you never engage in the Region's life and just stay around in the background, but you go into alarm mode as soon as someone criticizes the monarchy and your buddies from the old regime.

Possibly because the NWA was about a million times better than this place

Ormantum, Ostermeer, Bergonnia, Mukolayiv, and 2 othersMarinne, and The dependants

South-east antarctica wrote:It is funny how you never engage in the Region's life and just stay around in the background, but you go into alarm mode as soon as someone criticizes the monarchy and your buddies from the old regime.

Alarm mode? Right, a few comments on the RMB is alarm mode lmao

Funny how you don’t acknowledge you are the new establishment. Funny how the people in power are old timers from the old region. Perhaps it’s time you let go of power and give it to the new people

Ormantum, Mukolayiv, Marinne, and The dependants

Bergonnia wrote:Alarm mode? Right, a few comments on the RMB is alarm mode lmao

Funny how you don’t acknowledge you are the new establishment. Funny how the people in power are old timers from the old region. Perhaps it’s time you let go of power and give it to the new people

cringe

The saharan republic, Corsoaua, and The dependants

South-east antarctica wrote:The problem does not lie within the Senate. The problem lies within a very entrenched part of this region's politics that tries to defend its power at all costs.

I believe that the new constitution does not come down to gaining more power but giving it away to choice of our citizens I believe giving less power to the emperor is a step in the right direction. So I agree with this statement

Corsoaua, Of nuge, Turkmennoland, and The dependants

It's time to hand all power over to me

Tobosarsk, Corsoaua, and The dependants

Imao, let me say, Josephtan accepted the proposal to change the constitution without resorting to back-handed maneuvers (i.e., Donald Trump). Let's wait and see NWE's democratically voted outcome at the end of the next four days.

Corsoaua and The dependants

San guglielmo wrote:Imao, let me say, Josephtan accepted the proposal to change the constitution without resorting to back-handed maneuvers (i.e., Donald Trump). Let's wait and see NWE's democratically voted outcome at the end of the next four days.

It needs 2/3 to pass lol. It won't achieve that so it's DOA

Barlonatar, Tobosarsk, and The dependants

Valltoria wrote:It needs 2/3 to pass lol. It won't achieve that so it's DOA

the poll has 0% chance of passing. the opposition has a majority, and most people aren't very active

Corsoaua and The dependants

This is an official bulletin of the Intchenian National Government, under the leadership of His Majesty the Sultan Monarch.
Taking into account the youth of the Intchenian country and the weakness of its governmental institutions, His Majesty the Sultan, who also occupies the post of Prime Minister until the establishment of different ministries, decreed the creation of the National Committee of Intchenian Arts whose primary purpose will be to provide the nation with a coat of arms representing Intchenian patriotism, and this committee will be funded with private Bigtopian funds requisitioned during the War of Independence.

Newsletters to follow.

Ostermeer, Goodrum, Tobosarsk, San guglielmo, and 2 othersCorsoaua, and The dependants

South-east antarctica wrote:The problem does not lie within the Senate. The problem lies within a very entrenched part of this region's politics that tries to defend its power at all costs.

When was the last time you didn't hold some sort of power?

I dont know where you got the nerve to go marching round the region telling people to give up their power when you shouldve given your 'power' ages ago. Give your power to someone who isnt hellbent on attacking the monarchy for no good reason and to someone who is actually going to do something beneficial to the region.

Heisenbee, Thornian, Bergonnia, Victorious wentsworth, and 3 othersCorsoaua, Trischoczlovakia, and The dependants

United soviet states of russian empire

Marinne wrote:When was the last time you didn't hold some sort of power?

I dont know where you got the nerve to go marching round the region telling people to give up their power when you shouldve given your 'power' ages ago. Give your power to someone who isnt hellbent on attacking the monarchy for no good reason and to someone who actually do something beneficial to the region.

Good message, but I think that should go to the Senate

Marinne and The dependants

Marinne wrote:When was the last time you didn't hold some sort of power?

I dont know where you got the nerve to go marching round the region telling people to give up their power when you shouldve given your 'power' ages ago. Give your power to someone who isnt hellbent on attacking the monarchy for no good reason and to someone who is actually going to do something beneficial to the region.

You know sh!t is getting real when Marinne is commenting. Marinne has been a silent background government official since NWA and is not usually very vocal. So, If Marinne is speaking then y’all should listen up

Bergonnia, Marinne, and The dependants

NWE to Ant: “you have become the very thing to destroy!”

Ant:”if you are not with me, you are against me”

NWE: “only a member of the establishment deals in absolutes

Heisenbee, Ormantum, Josephtan, Palancia, and 5 othersAngea, Corsoaua, Londoniopol, Secular Soverign Republics, and The dependants

I really don't know what this is all about, because from what I can tell Josephtan has absolutely nothing to do with a "very entrenched part of this region's politics that tries to defend its power at all costs."

He's literally the monarch of the region, and he's done nothing to give himself more power. He pretty much just chills out 90% of the time until some random drama happens and he has to step in.

Frankly, the only power grabbing I can see throughout the history of the NWE is in cases like this. Trying to limit the Monarch's authority, and using any excuse possible to make it seem reasonable.

The "reeee monarchy bad" argument has really lost any possible meaning it could have had when there's no actual reason to limit the Monarchy's power instead of pursuing the actual issues that have plagued this region since its beginning, namely the lack of long-term activity and struggles to improve said activity. The monarch has nothing to do with that, unless you want the Monarch to have more power to manage the region more effectively?

But truthfully, I think I know the real reason behind it all, tbh. Some folks weren't fond of the old monarchy for various reasons...And so they're trying to take it out on Joseph, and other "Old Guard" members. Notice how with some people, pretty much everything gets blamed on the older members and pro-monarchy members? However, not many seem to understand why the NWA was so successful where the NWE isn't. The NWA had a extremely active and involved Monarch. Joseph prefers to sit back and let y'all do whatever for the most part, aka less direct oversight and involvement, which is pretty much what people wanted. But for some reason that doesn't appear to be enough for some people.

The fastest way to kill any NS Region such as ours is to weaken the monarch to the point where they can no longer keep our community stable, or until they decide it's no longer worth bothering and retire, creating a power vacuum.

In short, I really believe the rampant anti-monarchy bias we see displayed periodically here is mostly the result of grudges, mostly due to things that happened years ago that Joseph wasn't even part of. I know this rant will probably annoy some people quite a bit, especially with cries that "REEE YOU AREN'T EVEN ACTIVE IN THE REGION, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING REGARDING THE CURRENT SITUATION!"
Doesn't mean I ain't blind to what's been going on. It gets old, especially because I want this region to do well and to proudly carry the legacy of this community further.

If you want things in this region to improve? Try making more positive changes to the constitution and put more effort into positively impacting the region. The NWA was successful because we had an incredibly involved monarch, and dozens of dedicated people constantly and positively involved in the regional politics for years. The NWE could get there, too. But personally, I don't blame Joseph for not wanting to get more involved most of the time when it appears that people are working against him very often.

Also, the new constitution makes it so amendments only require simple majority to pass regional voting, which is pretty dumb.
this rant was typed up in the middle of cooking, pls don't be too harsh about typos : (

Baconbacon123, Ormantum, Ostermeer, Bergonnia, and 5 othersJosephtan, Victorious wentsworth, Corsoaua, Secular Soverign Republics, and The dependants

another hot take: I actually really like the current design of the flag. I always thought the poker-chip styled one looked pretty cool.

Baconbacon123, South-east antarctica, Ormantum, Josephtan, and 4 othersBarlonatar, Corsoaua, Secular Soverign Republics, and The dependants

Hello

San guglielmo, Corsoaua, Turkmennoland, and The dependants

Hello

San guglielmo, Corsoaua, and The dependants

Heisenbee wrote:
I really don't know what this is all about, because from what I can tell Josephtan has absolutely nothing to do with a "very entrenched part of this region's politics that tries to defend its power at all costs."

He's literally the monarch of the region, and he's done nothing to give himself more power. He pretty much just chills out 90% of the time until some random drama happens and he has to step in.

Frankly, the only power grabbing I can see throughout the history of the NWE is in cases like this. Trying to limit the Monarch's authority, and using any excuse possible to make it seem reasonable.

The "reeee monarchy bad" argument has really lost any possible meaning it could have had when there's no actual reason to limit the Monarchy's power instead of pursuing the actual issues that have plagued this region since its beginning, namely the lack of long-term activity and struggles to improve said activity. The monarch has nothing to do with that, unless you want the Monarch to have more power to manage the region more effectively?

But truthfully, I think I know the real reason behind it all, tbh. Some folks weren't fond of the old monarchy for various reasons...And so they're trying to take it out on Joseph, and other "Old Guard" members. Notice how with some people, pretty much everything gets blamed on the older members and pro-monarchy members? However, not many seem to understand why the NWA was so successful where the NWE isn't. The NWA had a extremely active and involved Monarch. Joseph prefers to sit back and let y'all do whatever for the most part, aka less direct oversight and involvement, which is pretty much what people wanted. But for some reason that doesn't appear to be enough for some people.

The fastest way to kill any NS Region such as ours is to weaken the monarch to the point where they can no longer keep our community stable, or until they decide it's no longer worth bothering and retire, creating a power vacuum.

In short, I really believe the rampant anti-monarchy bias we see displayed periodically here is mostly the result of grudges, mostly due to things that happened years ago that Joseph wasn't even part of. I know this rant will probably annoy some people quite a bit, especially with cries that "REEE YOU AREN'T EVEN ACTIVE IN THE REGION, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING REGARDING THE CURRENT SITUATION!"
Doesn't mean I ain't blind to what's been going on. It gets old, especially because I want this region to do well and to proudly carry the legacy of this community further.

If you want things in this region to improve? Try making more positive changes to the constitution and put more effort into positively impacting the region. The NWA was successful because we had an incredibly involved monarch, and dozens of dedicated people constantly and positively involved in the regional politics for years. The NWE could get there, too. But personally, I don't blame Joseph for not wanting to get more involved most of the time when it appears that people are working against him very often.

Also, the new constitution makes it so amendments only require simple majority to pass regional voting, which is pretty dumb.
this rant was typed up in the middle of cooking, pls don't be too harsh about typos : (

But, but, old guard establishment

United soviet states of russian empire and The dependants

Heisenbee wrote:another hot take: I actually really like the current design of the flag. I always thought the poker-chip styled one looked pretty cool.

Bribe revoked

Ostermeer and The dependants

Heisenbee wrote:another hot take: I actually really like the current design of the flag. I always thought the poker-chip styled one looked pretty cool.

I voted for it UwU

The dependants

Bergonnia wrote:Bribe revoked

There goes the preferential treatment for the Lib-Dems in the discord, then.

Barlonatar and The dependants

Hello

Palancia, San guglielmo, and The dependants

Hello

Palancia, San guglielmo, and The dependants

United soviet states of russian empire

Heisenbee wrote:another hot take: I actually really like the current design of the flag. I always thought the poker-chip styled one looked pretty cool.

Going after the government is one thing, saying anything about the flag is oh boy.

Victorious wentsworth and The dependants

United soviet states of russian empire

Heisenbee wrote:
I really don't know what this is all about, because from what I can tell Josephtan has absolutely nothing to do with a "very entrenched part of this region's politics that tries to defend its power at all costs."

He's literally the monarch of the region, and he's done nothing to give himself more power. He pretty much just chills out 90% of the time until some random drama happens and he has to step in.

Frankly, the only power grabbing I can see throughout the history of the NWE is in cases like this. Trying to limit the Monarch's authority, and using any excuse possible to make it seem reasonable.

The "reeee monarchy bad" argument has really lost any possible meaning it could have had when there's no actual reason to limit the Monarchy's power instead of pursuing the actual issues that have plagued this region since its beginning, namely the lack of long-term activity and struggles to improve said activity. The monarch has nothing to do with that, unless you want the Monarch to have more power to manage the region more effectively?

But truthfully, I think I know the real reason behind it all, tbh. Some folks weren't fond of the old monarchy for various reasons...And so they're trying to take it out on Joseph, and other "Old Guard" members. Notice how with some people, pretty much everything gets blamed on the older members and pro-monarchy members? However, not many seem to understand why the NWA was so successful where the NWE isn't. The NWA had a extremely active and involved Monarch. Joseph prefers to sit back and let y'all do whatever for the most part, aka less direct oversight and involvement, which is pretty much what people wanted. But for some reason that doesn't appear to be enough for some people.

The fastest way to kill any NS Region such as ours is to weaken the monarch to the point where they can no longer keep our community stable, or until they decide it's no longer worth bothering and retire, creating a power vacuum.

In short, I really believe the rampant anti-monarchy bias we see displayed periodically here is mostly the result of grudges, mostly due to things that happened years ago that Joseph wasn't even part of. I know this rant will probably annoy some people quite a bit, especially with cries that "REEE YOU AREN'T EVEN ACTIVE IN THE REGION, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING REGARDING THE CURRENT SITUATION!"
Doesn't mean I ain't blind to what's been going on. It gets old, especially because I want this region to do well and to proudly carry the legacy of this community further.

If you want things in this region to improve? Try making more positive changes to the constitution and put more effort into positively impacting the region. The NWA was successful because we had an incredibly involved monarch, and dozens of dedicated people constantly and positively involved in the regional politics for years. The NWE could get there, too. But personally, I don't blame Joseph for not wanting to get more involved most of the time when it appears that people are working against him very often.

Also, the new constitution makes it so amendments only require simple majority to pass regional voting, which is pretty dumb.
this rant was typed up in the middle of cooking, pls don't be too harsh about typos : (

But... where's my freedom? WHERE'S MY SIDE OF THE COIN? I THOUGHT I HAD REPRESENTATION

Please, if anyone is actually thinking that literally anything Heisenbee said is bad, then you really need to review anytime during my Prime Minister terms that I did anything relating to the Senate because that is who is supposed to be your main representative. The body that is supposed to be the model of progress, the model of what we are, had over 5 full on fights with the Executive in 6 months over issues just like this. I unfortunately lacked the words at the time to properly stick up for the values that make literally any region tick but Heisenbee has written it all down.

Heisenbee, Barlonatar, and The dependants

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