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Rain Falling In a Digital Void RMB

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Founder: Rainheart

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Most Devout: 1,327th Most Cheerful Citizens: 2,059th
World Factbook Entry

Initially a test flock.

Tags: Founderless, Minuscule, and Password.

Rain Falling In a Digital Void is home to a single nation.

Today's World Census Report

The Largest Basket Weaving Sector in Rain Falling In a Digital Void

World Census agents infiltrated a variety of out-of-the-way towns and festivals in order to determine which nations have the most developed Basket Weaving industries.

As a region, Rain Falling In a Digital Void is ranked 18,927th in the world for Largest Basket Weaving Sector.

NationWA CategoryMotto
1.The Community of Zintrothian Rapture 1Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Fascists“We have the right to live in peace”

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Rain Falling In a Digital Void Regional Message Board

Wyvelo plinth

The curtain falls.

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The curtain... rises?

Ehenhet dralgad

I just thought of the finest example of what's wrong with NationStates.

Look at Ehenhet Dralgad: a closed society, crushed by coercion and abuse, where people are trapped in hatred, traumatized into compliance with a miserable society, and cannot think about or study the wrong topics on pain of being literally murdered by the orbital quarantine. NationStates decides that the hidden civil rights corruption of Ehenhet Dralgad is: Low!
Compare Scorvkent: An open society, where people have the freedom to speak and act freely without being coerced, and the government works to uphold the public weal. Abuse and trauma have been minimized so that authoritarians are prevented from victimizing people into becoming rude. NationStates decides that the hidden civil rights corruption of Scorvkent is: Extreme!

There's no such thing as a polite society which is also a closed society. In polite societies, you get things like sex ed and freedom of information, which also rightly crush civil rights corruption. It's in brutal societies like Ehenhet Dralgad where information can't flow freely.


When abusive people can control all information flow and prevent anyone from getting complaints through, society is maximally rude. The pinnacle of that is Ehenhet Dralgad, where civil rights by all rights ought to be recorded as corrupted beyond all value. That society is trapped in primitive stagnation under a murderous government.

When valid information wins on all channels, society is maximally polite. It should be totally untenable to corrupt civil rights in Scorvkent, where the channels of information are clear and complaints can't be blocked by rude people.

The fact that NationStates insists on reversing this and putting those who victimize others into power with every step towards a polite society may be the last of my willingness to play it... at least for a while.

Historic suffering

Maybe I should start logging all the ways NationStates is wrong about etiquette. For instance, that effect: glassy-eyed historically victimized wives lifelessly chant "I love you" on command - That this is treated as polite is a brilliant example of the basic psychotic abusiveness with which NationStates was inexplicably designed. That issue improves etiquette, and yet the devs must have worse mommy issues than I have if they think lobotomizing half the population makes society more capable of making complaints and acting on them! NationStates favors the complaints of that kind of person, the ones who would lobotomize women, and treats them as the ones who deserve more right to complain as society moves towards greater openness. That makes no sense! The issue outright reduces compassion, even though the spirit of etiquette is about helping compassion to strengthen in the open.

I know by experience that choosing the basically polite second option ratchets rudeness upwards, too. That's almost just as backwards. I say almost, because the other effect is 'a new national campaign exhorts men to 'show some class, don't sit on your ass'", which is actually pretty rude itself. Putting all men under the oppression of treating them according to hostile stereotypes really would close off society to a lot of valid complaints. (Anyone who has read enough of my posts would know I've experienced being on the wrong side of that.) Still, it seems like it should be a situational thing shifting based on hidden variables. It should make society more polite in aggregate if the women in that society have been historically oppressed, and less polite in aggregate if they haven't been. If women have been historically oppressed, such a national campaign would open more complaints than it unfairly closes off, therefore making society more polite overall. If they haven't been, it would unfairly close more complaints than it enables and permits, therefore making society more rude overall.

People (usually) resort to screaming insults only when they've been prevented from making their complaints in a reasonable way. It's impossible to make people not complain, because taking that to extremes produces murder-havens like Ehenhet Dralgad. Nobody can make their complaints heard in Ehenhet Dralgad, so there's nothing to do but scream and/or try to kill people, thanks to that society being so abusive that getting trapped there destroys peoples' will to live. That eternal conflict is maximum rudeness. If you accommodate complaints and create a society in which valid information flows freely, you get a polite society in which people who jump to screaming insults really are all wrong, and therefore almost nobody ever does that.

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