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Dreamersistan

The angel of charity wrote:I did say so. The United States has a theoretical cap on the number of immigrants it can take in so the acclimatization will be peaceful and gradual. That’s why we have the immigration limited, and the border security checkpoints. A second factor is that the United States economy can only grow so fast to integrate these new workers, and with automation hitting, it seems that taking in new unskilled workforce’s seems unnecessary.

It the 1700s, we had vast amounts of virgin land to absorb these waves of people, and a massive demand for unskilled labor. Today we have a massive demand for skilled labor and little place in the over saturated market for unskilled labor. Taking in these waves of illegal immigrants is unfeasible in the long term, and needs to be addressed holistically at the source and along the chain of immigration.

Read what i sent u on discord. Talking politics and sociology among the kids who frequent this place is ridiculous.

Let me start with what you got right. Regarding low vs highly skilled work, there has indeed been a fundamental shift. And there is far less low-skilled work today, this is true. But this isn't new. In the past, many times over, technological shift and disruption has created and destroyed the concept of human work. AI is and will make some of what we consider today's high-skilled latter obsolete in the coming years. Many of the high skilled jobs of the world will be displaced.

Immigration limits aren't a sensible or logical ideology, they're a protectionist measure. It's always been protectionist. Australia's had it for a while, and it's a country that's pretty empty. The govt in power did that to protect its rural and poor unskilled voting-block. This is against the spirit of what the USA has stood for, and that is exactly what the US population did.

Republicans and corporate Democrats in your country have talked about these things ad infinitum since the 90s. In those days it was Clinton's Democratic regime that was 'strong on border immigration'. This stuff isn't close to new. It always pops up during times of economic stress.
There still are areas in the USA that are barely occupied. The USA is one the least densely populated regions in the world, just like Oz. I have an Aussie passport and it took a total of 2 months to get it. Because I'm the kind of person at whose feet every politician grovels.

Libertarianism, immigration and constitutionality is what the US identity was based on. Stopping people from joining the US isn't the American way. But a nation certainly evolves, and today's Americans bear no resemblance whatsoever to the people who broke from the Brits long ago. How did all this come about?

Politicians always look among piles of humans to find topics and ideas that will galvanize a sizable majority into voting. Since the first settlers, the South of the USA never diversified. Their form of industry did not benefit waves of immigrants and their skillsets, or vice versa. Communities congregated around landowners, Churches and ethnoreligiously identical peer groups. Consequently, and with the Civil War and stain of slavery, most communities based themselves around religion. They shut their eyes to global changes in technology making communication and travel much easier. The era of carpet baggers left the South even worse off. They did their best to hold onto old beliefs they thought were unfairly taken from them, the 1700s and early 1800s. They hated the government, the north, the freed slaves, 'liberal' education, entertainment, technology. Basically anything that wasnt in their historical past, they were paranoid of.

Meanwhile a dozen communities came and settled in the north and the coasts. No community integrated immediately. The Jews, the Italians, the Irish, the Polish, on and on.. Each took 50 to a hundred years to become truly Americanized. The Jewish faith was seen for much of the early 19th century as being poison to Christians. 'They killed Christ' was a common refrain in the 20th century, during Hitler's time. In the 30s some of the Democratic system was actually taking tips from Hitler, and a fair amount of documents exist that show prominent US politicians thought Hitler had a point with the 'problem of the Jews'. Ofc they didn't know the Nazis were cooking Jews in ovens then. Some of the statements of Truman reflect this from that period.

Find someone Palestinian, Japanese or German, 60 or older. Ask them how they were treated in high school and college. How their communities were looked upon by people. If you live in a middle sized US city, it's easy to find such people and get a better view into how the USA works. How cultural assimilation works. None of this is new.

Over time and with generations of children growing up next to each other, they assimilated. People thought to be culturally American today were once weird and the Other. I've traveled through much of the USA. Multiple times. I've met people who thought I was at different times Italian, or Lebanese, or Arab, or Polish, or Jewish. I've spoken in French with bartenders in the French Quarter of NOLA, broken Yiddish with Jewish grocers, and poor Italian with bakers in Little Italy. They still try to exist and talk like they were in the 1900s. No one has a problem with those communities today.

None of this is unique, none of this is new. It always takes time. It always takes empathy. What's unique and new is that today, humans finally have the power of technology to make artificial borders mostly impermeable. A showman and grifter, jumping upon the economic and racial uncertainty in a large swath of people, used an election run to make waves so his reality show wouldn't be cancelled. He won. History will show exactly what happened, and how people got taken. That's what it comes down to.

It takes life experience, travel and lots and lots of anguish to understand what the REAL reasons for politicians' actions are. It can't be read in high school or college level history books. As a species, humans are a pretty uncreative bunch

Kampf Empire and The angle of chairty

Greater kopmakia

Atlia sonis wrote:

The Onward Movement

by Atlia sonis

THE ONWARD MOVEMENT



Founded by Atlia Sonis, the Onward Movement is a government funded project, which main concern is providing advancement for weak and unstable nations, as well as shielding them from outside and internal threats.


Konoco Key Nuclear Power Plant.

The OM provides construction of infastructure in many fields, providing both methods of transportation, as well as providing great paying jobs for citizens.


OOCI Trinity at work.

As well as providing infastructure, the OM also grants free trade to signatory nations. These trade deals often vary from basic necessities like food and water, to expensive leisures like technology and hardware. (Items vary via request.)


Desert OM forces in Jintrok.

Another service is military protection. Military presence is almost mandatory to protect native land, having none resulting in tragedy. This is why the OM will provide military power in the region (Military power varies upon request.)

Signatory Nations
Nations who need OM assistance in given field.

None
Applauding Nations
Nations who agree to the OM's reason of existence, or helps with OM projects.

None

Who are we?
We're the way forward.


Read dispatch


Not gonna make an RP post yet, since the RMB went IRL political, but I'll be putting this here for anyone wanting to read it.

Greater Kopmakia commends the movement and requests aid in the ways to training and aid, due to the fact it absolutely SUCKS at fighting.

Post by Native-america suppressed by a moderator.

Dreamersistan
Not quoting because textwall.
I can’t access discord right now, rip.
I’ll respond later via telegram, right now I’m at a conference.

Pakitsk, Grossvietnam, British calradia, and Dreamersistan

Dreamersistan

The angle of chairty wrote:Dreamersistan
Not quoting because textwall.
I can’t access discord right now, rip.
I’ll respond later via telegram, right now I’m at a conference.

It has been spoiled

My discord advice was to let NS be a place of fun and creative imagination, rather than anything bout RL. RL takes a lot of boring reading and patient living to figure out

Imaginary wars are much more fun

Yeesh, I've made more typos today than in a month : ) That's what keeping a laptop on a tree stump will do for ya

Pakitsk, Kampf Empire, and The angle of chairty

Whataburger meal

Oppy girl wrote:*does a full withdraw of all TEP matters releasing all info of the plan*

Okay, the plan was to get back into TEP RMB and become influential, the reason I did it right at the beginning of Fedele's next term was because it would give me time for my plan to work. I was going to get trusted friends in TEP to join the magisterium and eventually take the majority of the magisterium, and I would tell them how to vote and what changes to laws to make, I would try and introduce laws that seperated the types of bans, there would be onsite bans for committing crimes onsite, and there would be offsite bans where you get banned for offsite reasons. I would continue gaining influence in the RMB and trying to gain influence with the other citizens of the region. I would then begin releasing the info that I am Huggers, in an attempt to get them to tell Fedele and then Fedele release the info, I would then take that and use that as basis for me releasing info against government officials, and bringing the drama to a climax, then blaming Fedele in such a way that makes him look bad for releasing the secret info, thus hopefully leveling the playing field, then I would come into the elections with my built up influence, hopefully becoming delegate, then I would try and make a ministry of roleplay intelligence to create RMB RP news, I would try and merge the Valsora map and map rules with the government, and banning the recruitment of any organization on the RMB, region or not, then I would create an advertisement factbook for the organizations to advertise, but they must follow the rules of the Valsora map to be allowed to advertise on the factbook, and I would expand the valsora rules to include the 10 member cap on all organizations that want to advertise on the factbook, thus getting around the part of the concordat that says the government cannot break up your organization, because we aren't, we would be removing your ability to advertise on the RMB or factbook. The reason I wished to do these two things is because:
1. The OOC reasons to ban someone from the government (which is basically RP government), thus allowing sick people to ban people for OOC reasons to gain IC influence.
2. The reason to limit organizations is because of the olden EU. The EU was a behemoth of an organization, we eventually had plans to leave TEP and make our own region, we did but it eventually died and left TEP RMB RP with a huge power vacuum and it killed RMB RP.

The reason I give up and decided to share this info with the region is because of 3 reasons:
1. Yuno. Yes THE Yuno asked me to stop doing this.
2. I am getting mentally strained and tired from this.
3. And someone who I thought hated me has told me that they don't hate me.

I might return to the RMB every once and awhile, idk. Also, nothing I did was illegal (I don't think) But it is really really really super duper corrupt. But that's just a warning of how easy it is to infiltrate TEP government. Also, the Magisterium plan was actually going through and there were people willing, but I cancel that because i'm tired. That's also why it's important to have lots of members in the magisterium, so try and make incentives for joining it and advertise it. Now Fedele. TAKE MY IDEAS, MAKE THEM BETTER, MAKE THE REGION BETTER.

Pakitsk, I know you're mad that I left TEP and came back and stuff.. I need to tell you. You are too dedicated to TEP, it's good that you are but the region is now using you and your dedication to TEP... It's actually harmful for your health, I remember when we used to be good friends OOC but then when I left TEP you threw me out and were hateful. Try not to take ingame actions like their OOC actions. I left TEP for my best friend, not because I hate TEP. (though that could be a reason) I went through having to making all my hard work and influence building in TEP all go away. Over half a year of work I made obsolete, because of my dedication to my friend. Now you have dedication to the Region. That means the people who run the region can use you to their advantage. You're being used... If I were you Paki I would take a break. I feel bad for you, you throwing out friends after they leave the region.. It hurts you emotionally, though you might not see it now, but you will see it late down the line. That is also why I returned to TEP, because I have friends in TEP. I'm sorry for making you mad, and all the times I did. Don't take me leaving again as a OOC issue. It's an IC issue. So be mad at me IC, but we can be friends OOC.

Queen yuno, Dreamersistan, and The angle of chairty

Dreamersistan wrote:It has been spoiled

My discord advice was to let NS be a place of fun and creative imagination, rather than anything bout RL. RL takes a lot of boring reading and patient living to figure out

Imaginary wars are much more fun

Yeesh, I've made more typos today than in a month : ) That's what keeping a laptop on a tree stump will do for ya

Smh dreamer, ur the one who called us all hairless apes :<

Pakitsk, Dreamersistan, and Native-america

Osterreich und ungarn

Rolls in a Donnerschlag tank and a KAG hat.

Whataburger meal wrote:Pakitsk, I know you're mad that I left TEP and came back and stuff.. I need to tell you. You are too dedicated to TEP, it's good that you are but the region is now using you and your dedication to TEP... It's actually harmful for your health, I remember when we used to be good friends OOC but then when I left TEP you threw me out and were hateful. Try not to take ingame actions like their OOC actions. I left TEP for my best friend, not because I hate TEP. (though that could be a reason) I went through having to making all my hard work and influence building in TEP all go away. Over half a year of work I made obsolete, because of my dedication to my friend. Now you have dedication to the Region. That means the people who run the region can use you to their advantage. You're being used... If I were you Paki I would take a break. I feel bad for you, you throwing out friends after they leave the region.. It hurts you emotionally, though you might not see it now, but you will see it late down the line. That is also why I returned to TEP, because I have friends in TEP. I'm sorry for making you mad, and all the times I did. Don't take me leaving again as a OOC issue. It's an IC issue. So be mad at me IC, but we can be friends OOC.

Op puppet life cycle.
>Join TEP
>Act friendly and make friends, memes are mandatory.
>Create a crazy plan and go half through with it.
>Disclose the plan and leave TEP.
>CTE
>Op makes a new puppet and joins TEP.
And so life continues.

Pakitsk, Zukchiva, and Dreamersistan

Dreamersistan

The angle of chairty wrote:Smh dreamer, ur the one who called us all hairless apes :<

Oooh ooh aah aaah

Dreamer wants some banana-corn

We're all, at our core, hairless apes that can use language and abstract thinking

Having an unrecordable IQ doesn't absolve me of the limits of my brain's evolutionary disadvantages..

At least until I get an android chip implanted in my brain

<jumps onto Charity's back, beats his chest and rides him around like a pony>

Pakitsk, Kampf Empire, and The angle of chairty

Whataburger meal wrote:Pakitsk, I know you're mad that I left TEP and came back and stuff.. I need to tell you. You are too dedicated to TEP, it's good that you are but the region is now using you and your dedication to TEP... It's actually harmful for your health, I remember when we used to be good friends OOC but then when I left TEP you threw me out and were hateful. Try not to take ingame actions like their OOC actions. I left TEP for my best friend, not because I hate TEP. (though that could be a reason) I went through having to making all my hard work and influence building in TEP all go away. Over half a year of work I made obsolete, because of my dedication to my friend. Now you have dedication to the Region. That means the people who run the region can use you to their advantage. You're being used... If I were you Paki I would take a break. I feel bad for you, you throwing out friends after they leave the region.. It hurts you emotionally, though you might not see it now, but you will see it late down the line. That is also why I returned to TEP, because I have friends in TEP. I'm sorry for making you mad, and all the times I did. Don't take me leaving again as a OOC issue. It's an IC issue. So be mad at me IC, but we can be friends OOC.

I understand you feeling loyalty to Yuno as a friend and wanting to reform things. But I also can't abide someone who, more than once, has shown disrespect to the region and our people. You say I ought to take a break. I've considered it. But my loyalty at the moment is to the East, and I wouldn't call myself burned out sufficiently. I'd gladly drop everything I have against you if you could, with all due respect, stop being an indecisive, whiny person. You yourself said Yuno asked you to stop; therefore, I'm asking you, as a current or former friend (whichever you wish to interpret it as), to let it all go. I wouldn't call you a bad person. You're just a bit too focused on the wrong things. Much luck and good fortune to you.

Queen yuno, Libertanny, Dreamersistan, and The angle of chairty

Atlia sonis wrote:

The Onward Movement

by Atlia sonis

THE ONWARD MOVEMENT



Founded by Atlia Sonis, the Onward Movement is a government funded project, which main concern is providing advancement for weak and unstable nations, as well as shielding them from outside and internal threats.


Konoco Key Nuclear Power Plant.

The OM provides construction of infastructure in many fields, providing both methods of transportation, as well as providing great paying jobs for citizens.


OOCI Trinity at work.

As well as providing infastructure, the OM also grants free trade to signatory nations. These trade deals often vary from basic necessities like food and water, to expensive leisures like technology and hardware. (Items vary via request.)


Desert OM forces in Jintrok.

Another service is military protection. Military presence is almost mandatory to protect native land, having none resulting in tragedy. This is why the OM will provide military power in the region (Military power varies upon request.)

Signatory Nations
Nations who need OM assistance in given field.

None
Applauding Nations
Nations who agree to the OM's reason of existence, or helps with OM projects.

None

Who are we?
We're the way forward.


Read dispatch


Not gonna make an RP post yet, since the RMB went IRL political, but I'll be putting this here for anyone wanting to read it.

Zukchiva can't reasonably commend this proposal as you're literally invading a nation that could benefit from this. Or if you dropped the invasion, you were about to invade one.

Good luck though, it's a good idea.

Grossvietnam, Dreamersistan, and The angle of chairty

Less teenage angst, more war, people

I'm sitting in the canadian north, bored out of of my gourd, half hoping for a bear to show up so I can have some excitiment

We need some war in RMB!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE5avOC6Hgg

The angle of chairty

Whataburger meal

Pakitsk wrote:I understand you feeling loyalty to Yuno as a friend and wanting to reform things. But I also can't abide someone who, more than once, has shown disrespect to the region and our people. You say I ought to take a break. I've considered it. But my loyalty at the moment is to the East, and I wouldn't call myself burned out sufficiently. I'd gladly drop everything I have against you if you could, with all due respect, stop being an indecisive, whiny person. You yourself said Yuno asked you to stop; therefore, I'm asking you, as a current or former friend (whichever you wish to interpret it as), to let it all go. I wouldn't call you a bad person. You're just a bit too focused on the wrong things. Much luck and good fortune to you.

I'm really indecisive. <-> That text face is my life. <-> <-> <->

The angle of chairty wrote:Op puppet life cycle.
>Join TEP
>Act friendly and make friends, memes are mandatory.
>Create a crazy plan and go half through with it.
>Disclose the plan and leave TEP.
>CTE
>Op makes a new puppet and joins TEP.
And so life continues.

LOL i've secretly been doing this for 7 years...

The angle of chairty

Dreamersistan wrote:Oooh ooh aah aaah

Dreamer wants some banana-corn

We're all, at our core, hairless apes that can use language and abstract thinking

Having an unrecordable IQ doesn't absolve me of the limits of my brain's evolutionary disadvantages..

At least until I get an android chip implanted in my brain

<jumps onto Charity's back, beats his chest and rides him around like a pony>

Puts down dreamer and tells him to be a responshabebl adult.

Dreamersistan

The angle of chairty wrote:Puts down dreamer and tells him to be a responshabebl adult.

Waah!

<pout>

Wait, does responshabeblity include the right to turn squirrels inside out and use them to trap cougars?

If so, I might be interested...

Zukchiva and The angle of chairty

Oppy girl wrote:*does a full withdraw of all TEP matters releasing all info of the plan*

Okay, the plan was to get back into TEP RMB and become influential, the reason I did it right at the beginning of Fedele's next term was because it would give me time for my plan to work. I was going to get trusted friends in TEP to join the magisterium and eventually take the majority of the magisterium, and I would tell them how to vote and what changes to laws to make, I would try and introduce laws that seperated the types of bans, there would be onsite bans for committing crimes onsite, and there would be offsite bans where you get banned for offsite reasons. I would continue gaining influence in the RMB and trying to gain influence with the other citizens of the region. I would then begin releasing the info that I am Huggers, in an attempt to get them to tell Fedele and then Fedele release the info, I would then take that and use that as basis for me releasing info against government officials, and bringing the drama to a climax, then blaming Fedele in such a way that makes him look bad for releasing the secret info, thus hopefully leveling the playing field, then I would come into the elections with my built up influence, hopefully becoming delegate, then I would try and make a ministry of roleplay intelligence to create RMB RP news, I would try and merge the Valsora map and map rules with the government, and banning the recruitment of any organization on the RMB, region or not, then I would create an advertisement factbook for the organizations to advertise, but they must follow the rules of the Valsora map to be allowed to advertise on the factbook, and I would expand the valsora rules to include the 10 member cap on all organizations that want to advertise on the factbook, thus getting around the part of the concordat that says the government cannot break up your organization, because we aren't, we would be removing your ability to advertise on the RMB or factbook. The reason I wished to do these two things is because:
1. The OOC reasons to ban someone from the government (which is basically RP government), thus allowing sick people to ban people for OOC reasons to gain IC influence.
2. The reason to limit organizations is because of the olden EU. The EU was a behemoth of an organization, we eventually had plans to leave TEP and make our own region, we did but it eventually died and left TEP RMB RP with a huge power vacuum and it killed RMB RP.

The reason I give up and decided to share this info with the region is because of 3 reasons:
1. Yuno. Yes THE Yuno asked me to stop doing this.
2. I am getting mentally strained and tired from this.
3. And someone who I thought hated me has told me that they don't hate me.

I might return to the RMB every once and awhile, idk. Also, nothing I did was illegal (I don't think) But it is really really really super duper corrupt. But that's just a warning of how easy it is to infiltrate TEP government. Also, the Magisterium plan was actually going through and there were people willing, but I cancel that because i'm tired. That's also why it's important to have lots of members in the magisterium, so try and make incentives for joining it and advertise it. Now Fedele. TAKE MY IDEAS, MAKE THEM BETTER, MAKE THE REGION BETTER.

You're giving EU too much credit. If I were to be honest, the JU-EU stalemate is what "killed" the RMB.

If I'm to be honest, the reason the RMB is dying is because people are being more moderate of their time on NS, because arpee is now just running on the same tracks over and over again.

It may not be boring exactly, but it isnt engaging enough for people to spend all their time on it. Which is why activity is so dead.

I'm too bored of this place though, which is why I'm not doing anything to fix it.

Arpino, Pakitsk, Kampf Empire, Osterreich und ungarn, and 2 othersThe angle of chairty, and Whataburger meal

Dreamersistan wrote:Waah!

<pout>

Wait, does responshabeblity include the right to turn squirrels inside out and use them to trap cougars?

If so, I might be interested...

No. But you can buy me a beer.

Pakitsk and Dreamersistan

The angle of chairty wrote:No. But you can buy me a beer.

<tosses you some terrible non-alcoholic beer>

What a great idea.. im in the wilderness, im bored.. i should drink :D

ciao for now all

The angle of chairty

The angle of chairty

The North Pacific

Zukchiva wrote:You're giving EU too much credit. If I were to be honest, the JU-EU stalemate is what "killed" the RMB.

If I'm to be honest, the reason the RMB is dying is because people are being more moderate of their time on NS, because arpee is now just running on the same tracks over and over again.

It may not be boring exactly, but it isnt engaging enough for people to spend all their time on it. Which is why activity is so dead.

I'm too bored of this place though, which is why I'm not doing anything to fix it.

I could revolt against Felter and rejoin rmb rp I suppose. However, I was sort of hoping you all could fix this yourselves.

Pakitsk and Greater felter

Also, it's legal to ban me now, i'm not in TEP with any of my puppets so I am technically not a citizen. so Fedele, ban me please. I have a marsupial son, but am not a marsupial. also I released a marsupial into your back garden and it ate all the weeds. <_<

Fedele, Grossvietnam, The angle of chairty, and Brethren

The angle of chairty wrote:I could revolt against Felter and rejoin rmb rp I suppose. However, I was sort of hoping you all could fix this yourselves.

Too lazy and too bored about this place to do anything anymore.

Òwó

I just play RoBloX instead because it's more fun.

Greater felter, The angle of chairty, and Whataburger meal

Zukchiva wrote:Too lazy and too bored about this place to do anything anymore.

Òwó

I just play RoBloX instead because it's more fun.

I play MiNEcrAfT because it's the best game and now is the most sold game in all of history.

Greater kopmakia

Zukchiva wrote:Too lazy and too bored about this place to do anything anymore.

Òwó

I just play RoBloX instead because it's more fun.

I play roblox too

Omg I think an opossum ate all my weed

East Malaysia, Pakitsk, Kampf Empire, Libertanny, and 2 othersThe angle of chairty, and Whataburger meal

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