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Gorbastan

Euricanis wrote:yeah i don’t really know what i’m talking about. i’m just using phonemes relative to european languages, which is not an accurate way to pronounce languages in vastly different cultures such as japan’s.

Phonetics usually aren't so useful when it comes to Japanese. Unlike in English, each "letter" has only one single sound. Where the letter 'A' in English can be pronounced in numerous ways in words such as: "Ah" "Aye" "Aw" meanwhile, Japanese is actually quite simplistic. The 'letter' あ has only one sound and that's "Ah." The rest of the Japanese 'alphabet' is a mix of a vowel sound with a consonant.

The only time a Japanese letter is pronounced differently is if it has a marking which tells you to voice your pronunciation.

Example: か is pronounced "Ka" but adding dakuten が turns it into "Ga." You can feel the vibration in your throat this way. There's also plosive sounds which is where you pucker your lips and quickly release the air in your mouth. This makes a "P-" sound. The marking for that is only used on h consonants.

The other exception is articles. In a similar way to how we English speakers use "The" or "A" to clarify the relationship between an object, verb, or subject, Japanese doesn't have a word, but uses Hirigana characters to fulfill this role.

Another side note, Hirigana is one of three in the Japanese writing system. Katakana is used for foreign words (it's like when we use French words in English) or just plain emphasis or decoration. I've fallen in love with this system because it's so much more simple to pronounce words this way.

There's also Kanji, but I'm not going to talk about that.

*Shudders*

Edit: I forgot to mention that there's also the Hirigana Character ん which is the one consonant by itself that's pronounced as "n"

Of Centralist Brexit wrote:bro the last ping i got was self deleted

It was me asking the same question, but then deciding that it was too soon to ask.

Peatiktist wrote:OOC: Monarchism technically isn't a violation of Imperial law like communism is, so they're fine unless they try something stupid.
IC:
As asked, he, his assistant, and his guards follow.

This.

Gorbastan wrote:Phonetics usually aren't so useful when it comes to Japanese. Unlike in English, each "letter" has only one single sound. Where the letter 'A' in English can be pronounced in numerous ways in words such as: "Ah" "Aye" "Aw" meanwhile, Japanese is actually quite simplistic. The 'letter' あ has only one sound and that's "Ah." The rest of the Japanese 'alphabet' is a mix of a vowel sound with a consonant.

The only time a Japanese letter is pronounced differently is if it has a marking which tells you to voice your pronunciation.

Example: か is pronounced "Ka" but adding dakuten が turns it into "Ga." You can feel the vibration in your throat this way. There's also plosive sounds which is where you pucker your lips and quickly release the air in your mouth. This makes a "P-" sound. The marking for that is only used on h consonants.

The other exception is articles. In a similar way to how we English speakers use "The" or "A" to clarify the relationship between an object, verb, or subject, Japanese doesn't have a word, but uses Hirigana characters to fulfill this role.

Another side note, Hirigana is one of three in the Japanese writing system. Katakana is used for foreign words (it's like when we use French words in English) or just plain emphasis or decoration. I've fallen in love with this system because it's so much more simple to pronounce words this way.

There's also Kanji, but I'm not going to talk about that.

*Shudders*

Edit: I forgot to mention that there's also the Hirigana Character ん which is the one consonant by itself that's pronounced as "n"

i feel like for languages like japanese it’s a lot more effective to use ipa. english is almost impossible to generalize because of inconsistencies EVERYWHERE, and french has silent letters everywhere, whereas most other languages are pretty self-consistent, like spanish.

Gorbastan

Peatiktist wrote:It was me asking the same question, but then deciding that it was too soon to ask.

This.

ah cheers, one moment

Kampf Empire wrote:* Sharpens Corporate Axe *

....I regret any dislike of being a colony ;-;

Kampf Empire, Peatiktist, and Crocadillia

Jesus I started a massive nerd spam

Crocadillia wrote:I'm alive so you cant have my leather >:)

#FreeSerkin
#FreeSerkin
#FreeSerkin

:00000

thank you!!! qwq

Crocadillia

Serkin wrote::00000

thank you!!! qwq

You has our full supports!! :3

Serkin

Crocadillia wrote:Jesus I started a massive nerd spam

DEAL WITH IT

Euricanis wrote:DEAL WITH IT

Never.

Euricanis wrote:i feel like for languages like japanese it’s a lot more effective to use ipa. english is almost impossible to generalize because of inconsistencies EVERYWHERE, and french has silent letters everywhere, whereas most other languages are pretty self-consistent, like spanish.

That is definitely true. I am not a Phonetics pro, but I find it easier for me to explain Japanese pronunciation with English letters as it makes it easier. This certainly does create several problems especially with the aforementioned R-Column of Hirigana characters.

English 'R' is different from Japanese 'R' but you'll still find that mix of L, R, or sometimes even D in languages like Portugese or Russian.

That brings up the topic of how Japanese is quite similar to Russian with their sounds. If you've ever watched an anime where the creators wanted to have that "Foreign-sounding character" sometimes it's easier to choose Russian rather than English because pronunciation is easier. If you've heard a Japanese person struggle with pronouncing English, imagine how hard it would be pronouncing German words for them.

Euricanis and Crocadillia

Gorbastan wrote:Phonetics usually aren't so useful when it comes to Japanese. Unlike in English, each "letter" has only one single sound. Where the letter 'A' in English can be pronounced in numerous ways in words such as: "Ah" "Aye" "Aw" meanwhile, Japanese is actually quite simplistic. The 'letter' あ has only one sound and that's "Ah." The rest of the Japanese 'alphabet' is a mix of a vowel sound with a consonant.

The only time a Japanese letter is pronounced differently is if it has a marking which tells you to voice your pronunciation.

Example: か is pronounced "Ka" but adding dakuten が turns it into "Ga." You can feel the vibration in your throat this way. There's also plosive sounds which is where you pucker your lips and quickly release the air in your mouth. This makes a "P-" sound. The marking for that is only used on h consonants.

The other exception is articles. In a similar way to how we English speakers use "The" or "A" to clarify the relationship between an object, verb, or subject, Japanese doesn't have a word, but uses Hirigana characters to fulfill this role.

Another side note, Hirigana is one of three in the Japanese writing system. Katakana is used for foreign words (it's like when we use French words in English) or just plain emphasis or decoration. I've fallen in love with this system because it's so much more simple to pronounce words this way.

There's also Kanji, but I'm not going to talk about that.

*Shudders*

Edit: I forgot to mention that there's also the Hirigana Character ん which is the one consonant by itself that's pronounced as "n"

To add onto that last part, the character that's pronounced as "n" becomes "m" when a consonant that starts with "b" or "p" comes after it.

Gorbastan and Crocadillia

Crocadillia wrote:I'm alive so you cant have my leather >:)

#FreeSerkin
#FreeSerkin
#FreeSerkin

What is this Hong kong?

Serkin and Crocadillia

Karatol-Advenra wrote:What is this Hong kong?

FREE SERKIN

Crocadillia wrote:You has our full supports!! :3

QwQ

Karatol-Advenra wrote:What is this Hong kong?

Support qwq

Karatol-Advenra and Crocadillia

Serkin wrote:QwQ

Support qwq

#qwq

Serkin

Serkin wrote:QwQ

Support qwq

You chose this path yourself, my Nation wont support you if you wanted this yourself, we will only support of you didnt want it, but was forced to.

Kampf Empire, Peatiktist, and Crocadillia

Serkin wrote:QwQ

Support qwq

He/she also not on Valsora.

So no actual support.

Serkin

SupportSerkinGang

Serkin

Crocadillia wrote:#qwq

#thanks4support qwq

Peatiktist wrote:He/she also not on Valsora.

So no actual support.

Wait what?!

Gorbastan wrote:That is definitely true. I am not a Phonetics pro, but I find it easier for me to explain Japanese pronunciation with English letters as it makes it easier. This certainly does create several problems especially with the aforementioned R-Column of Hirigana characters.

English 'R' is different from Japanese 'R' but you'll still find that mix of L, R, or sometimes even D in languages like Portugese or Russian.

That brings up the topic of how Japanese is quite similar to Russian with their sounds. If you've ever watched an anime where the creators wanted to have that "Foreign-sounding character" sometimes it's easier to choose Russian rather than English because pronunciation is easier. If you've heard a Japanese person struggle with pronouncing English, imagine how hard it would be pronouncing German words for them.

yeah. i think knowing ipa was extremely helpful for me to “learn” self-consistent languages like spanish where looking at how a word is spelled should tell you basically exactly how it is pronounced (even if i can’t pronounce /r/, or “rr”), and learning inconsistent languages like english might be extra hell for me

Crocadillia wrote:Never.

you bring out the nerd in me more than anyone else here so it’s kinda your fault anyway

Gorbastan

Serkin wrote:....I regret any dislike of being a colony ;-;

Can somebody translate that?

Euricanis and Serkin

Peatiktist wrote:He/she also not on Valsora.

So no actual support.

definitely not she

Kampf Empire wrote:Can somebody translate that?

;-;

Kampf Empire wrote:Can somebody translate that?

“pls no kill me lord kampf”

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