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After (actually) reading the bill and going through the amendments, here are my votes:

A - Aye
C - Aye
D - Abstain

Amendment Vote Results:

The Electoral Commission Act of 2021
Authors: Marvinville, Brototh & Taungu
Sponsor: Marvinville

Amendment A: PASSED
Proposed by: Rhyssuan Peoples

Changes Article 2, section 1.1 from:

"In the counting of votes, when it comes to re-distributing the surplus of votes over the quota received by a candidate, the Electoral Commissioner shall re-distribute votes by assigning to each first-place vote a number, assigned by the time it was cast, then a random number generator will be used to determine which ballots shall be redistributed."

to:

"In the counting of votes, when it comes to re-distributing the surplus of votes over the quota received by a candidate, the Electoral Commissioner shall re-distribute votes by counting the total number of votes over the quota a candidate is, then distributing those votes proportionally to the voters' second-choice candidates."

AYES (10) - Angypt, Clarance, Gallo Republic, Marvinville, Nova Anglicum, Primo Order, Rhyssuan Peoples, Rivogna, Sma Cyrillic, Zon island
NAYS (0)
ABSTAINS (1) - Islonia
DID NOT VOTE (0)

Amendment C: PASSED
Proposed by: Primo Order

Rename Article IV - The Inauguration of the Executive and Legislative positions
Change Art IV to read as follows:

  • Section I - The Electoral Commissioner shall inaugurate the President and Prime Minister on the House of Commons RMB, using the applicable oath detailed in Article IV, Section I, Subsection I or II.

    • I. Oath of office for President: "I, (nation name), do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of Thaecia, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Thaecia."

    • II. Oath of office for Prime Minister: "I, (nation name), do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of Prime Minister of Thaecia, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Thaecia."

  • Section I - The Electoral Commissioner shall inaugurate the President, Prime Minister, and Members of Parliament on the House of Commons RMB. They shall also inaugurate Senators on the Thaecian Senate RMB. This shall be done with a public statement on the applicable RMB, stating whom has won office, by the Electoral Commissioner. Once done, the individual shall take their office.

    • I. This statement must be made within the timespan provided Article II Section II and Article II Section VI.

    • II. Inauguration shall be defined as the day and/or moment an individual takes office following an election.

  • Section II - When a legislative chamber is inaugurated following an election, the Electoral Commissioner shall chair the chamber until a Speaker/Chair has been elected as per Article V. For this duration of time, they will have the permission to speak on the House of Commons and the Thaecian Senate RMB.

  • Section III - In order to take up their seat, the legislator-elect must take the oath of office detailed in Article IV, Section III, sub-section I of this law.

    • I. "I, (nation name), do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of Thaecia against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter."

AYES (7) - Clarance, Gallo Republic, Islonia, Nova Anglicum, Primo Order, Rhyssuan Peoples, Rivogna
NAYS (4) - Angypt, Marvinville, Sma Cyrillic, Zon island
ABSTAINS (0)
DID NOT VOTE (0)

Amendment D: FAILED
Proposed by: Primo Order

Amend Article I, Section II to read:
  • Section II - The Electoral Commissioner shall be nominated by the President and confirmed by a simple majority vote in the House of Commons and Senate.

AYES (4) - Gallo Republic, Islonia, Nova Anglicum, Primo Order
NAYS (4) - Angypt, Marvinville, Sma Cyrillic, Zon island
ABSTAINS (3) - Clarance, Rhyssuan Peoples, Rivogna
DID NOT VOTE (0)

Vote Period:

The Electoral Commission Act of 2021
Authors: Marvinville, Brototh & Taungu
Sponsor: Marvinville
As amended by: Rhyssuan Peoples & Primo Order

We will now begin voting on The Electoral Commission Act of 2021, as amended by the House.

My vote is Aye.

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Vote Result:

The Electoral Commission Act of 2021
Authors: Marvinville, Brototh & Taungu
Sponsor: Marvinville
As amended by: Rhyssuan Peoples & Primo Order

AYES (11) - Angypt, Clarance, Gallo Republic, Islonia, Marvinville, Nova Anglicum, Primo Order, Rhyssuan Peoples, Rivogna, Sma Cyrillic, Zon island
NAYS (0)
ABSTAINS (0)
DID NOT VOTE (0)

The Electoral Commission Act of 2021, as amended, has passed the House and goes to the Senate for further action!

Debate Period:

Designated Survivor Act
Author: Snowflame
Sponsor: Marvinville

We have now begun debating the Designated Survivor Act. Please post your thoughts and propose amendments if you wish.

Post self-deleted by Nova Anglicum.

Nova Anglicum wrote:I would like to propose an Amendment:

Amends Article 1 Section 1 to read:
  • Section I - Upon the Prime Minister being unable to continue their service, whether that be from anything that relieves them of their citizenship, impeachment, inactivity, or ceasing to exist, the following list shows the order in which another office can take over:

    1. President

    2. Minister of Foreign Affairs

    3. Minister of Interior Affairs

    4. Justice Minister

    5. Culture Minister

    Amends Article 2 section 1 to read:

    • Section I - Upon the World Assembly Delegate President being unable to continue their service, whether that be from anything that relieves them of their citizenship, impeachment, inactivity, or ceasing to exist, the following list shows the order in which another Executive office can take over:

      1. Prime Minister

      2. Minister of Foreign Affairs

      3. Minister of Interior Affairs

      4. Justice Minister

      5. Culture Minister

      Amends Article 3 Section 1 to read:
      If the President has been given a World Assembly waiver and has a Vice President who is the legal World Assembly Delegate, the following line of succession will take place if the President is unable to continue their service for reasons mentioned in Articles I and II:

      1. Vice President

      2. Prime Minister

      3. Minister of Foreign Affairs

      4. Minister of Interior Affairs

      5. Justice Minister

      6. Culture Minister

Essentially I don't think the two most powerful positions in the Executive should be held by one person at any time. I will be happy to elaborate if there are any questions. Also sorry for the weird formatting.

I would like to point out that this Amendment is likely unconstitutional.

Thaecian Constitution Article I, Section III: "...The president shall be the Head of State of Thaecia, observing only the Powers of the Prime Minister, when the office of the Prime Minister is vacant..."

Thaecian Constitution Article I, Section VIII, Subsection II: "...while there is no official Prime Minister in office the President shall observe the duties of the Prime Minister..."

Also, I have a series of Amendments I would like to propose sometime tomorrow.

Marvinville wrote:I would like to point out that this Amendment is likely unconstitutional.

Thaecian Constitution Article I, Section III: "...The president shall be the Head of State of Thaecia, observing only the Powers of the Prime Minister, when the office of the Prime Minister is vacant..."

Thaecian Constitution Article I, Section VIII, Subsection II: "...while there is no official Prime Minister in office the President shall observe the duties of the Prime Minister..."

Also, I have a series of Amendments I would like to propose sometime tomorrow.

I misread that part. I'll withdraw my amendment.

I have a few Amendments I would like propose

To amend Article II, Section I:

Section I - Upon the World Assembly Delegate President being unable to continue their service, whether that be from anything that relieves them of their citizenship, impeachment, inactivity, or ceasing to exist, the following list shows the order in which another office can take over:

1. Prime Minister

2. Vice President, in the event where the outgoing President is a World Assembly waivered citizen.

2 3. Minister of Foreign Affairs

3 4. Minister of Interior Affairs

4 5. Justice Minister

5 6. Culture Minister

To remove Article III - Waivered President

Article III IV - Acceptance and Elections

Article IV V - Future Ministries

To amend Article I - Prime Minister:

Section II - The individual who takes the office of the Prime Minister will temporarily execute the powers and duties of the office until a new Prime Minister is inaugurated. an election can be held for it.

To amend Article II - President:

Section II - The individual who takes the office of the President will temporarily execute the powers and duties of the office until a new President is inaugurated. an election can be held for it.

To amend Article I - Prime Minister:

Section I - During any time that the office of the Prime Ministry is vacant, Upon the Prime Minister being unable to continue their service, whether that be from anything that relieves them of their citizenship, impeachment, inactivity, or ceasing to exist, the following list shows the order in which another office can take over:

To amend Article II - President:

Section I - During any time that the office of the Presidency is vacant, Upon the World Assembly Delegate President being unable to continue their service, whether that be from anything that relieves them of their citizenship, impeachment, inactivity, or ceasing to exist, the following list shows the order in which another office can take over:

To amend Article V - Future Ministries:

Section I: Any new Ministerial position created that is not designated by Constitutional law at the passing of this bill, whether that position be created by the Prime Minister or a Constitutional Amendment, will go at the end of the line of succession for Prime Minister and President. It will continue this way based on the order in which each new ministry is created. For example, the creation of an Education Minister would be placed after whatever position is "last" in the Line of Succession. If an Immigration minister is created after the Education Minister, the former would go after the latter.

I would like to propose this amendment:

Amends Article IV to read:

  • Section I - The next in the Line of Succession does have the option to deny the position that they are offered, whether that be for Prime Minister or President. In the circumstance in which that takes place, the offer for the position will go to the person after them and continue from there.

    • Sub-Section I: In the circumstance in which the delegate Vice President denies the option to become president, the next in line who accepts the offer will become the next President. Whether the Vice President remains the delegate is up to the discretion of the new President.Section 1-In the circumstance where the Prime Minister takes the role of the President and is WA-Waivered, the Prime Minister must appoint a cabinet member to be acting-delegate until the inauguration of a new President.

    • Sub-Section II: Section 2-When an individual takes the Office of President or Prime Minister, they will temporarily hold the powers of both the office they are currently holding, and the office they are taking over- being exempt from the Positions Restriction Act. Once an election has been held for the office they are temporarily holding, they will return to their previous office.

The amendments look great, guys! Looking forward to this bill with y'all. <3

Amendment B has been updated

I would like to thank the Speaker for putting my bill on the House floor.
I agree with Amendments C, D, and I guess E is okay. I feel like examples in this bill would be necessary since the Prime Minister and Constitutional Amendments can create new ministries. If we delete the examples, then there could be confusion as to what happens to the new ministries.

However, I disagree with amendments B and F. A waivered President does not have the same powers as the WA president and so the Line of Succession should take that into account.
Amendment F, in my opinion, does not make much sense. It contradicts other parts of the bill, gives the Prime Minister more power, and changes the entire purpose of the bill.

Snowflame wrote:Snip

Thanks for the feedback. Now the purpose of this amendment was to A. Fix the issue that the PM refusing to take the duties would be a violation of the constitution and make them liable to impeachment, B. to compliment the fix Marv made in Amendment B where the VP cannot be in the line of succession before the PM, and C. to deal with a WA-Waivered PM.

So a PM must assume the duties of the President, including the delegacy. And with Amendment B, the original sub-section 1 is not very relevant. Also if the PM is waivered, they can't assume the delegacy, so it would make sense for someone to be appointed in the same fashion as a WA-Waivered President would appoint a Vice President. Also, I do not see how it contradicts other parts of the bill as nowhere in the bill does it say that you can chose not to take the powers and the appointment of an acting delegate does not overrule the line of succession, instead finds a way to solve the problem of a WA-Waivered PM.

I will also note that if the appointment of a acting delegate is a problem for MPs, I would be willing to modify the amendment to find a different solution.

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