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I would like everyone to read the post about Commend Ankh-Morpork Founder that I just posted: region=the_south_pacific_wa_voting_center/page=display_region_rmb?postid=42722268#p42722268 (admittedly, it's a bit longer than I expected it to be when I was writing it :P)

Post self-deleted by Renway.

Good afternoon, TSP!

Proctethia, Unojo, Ipugao, and The smokey bear

Melicorium wrote:Good afternoon, TSP!

Sup meli?

Mavenu wrote:Sup meli?

I'm good, you?

I am currently perplexed at this new petition. And i have to spectate these horrors from Europe...

Pryakane wrote:I am currently perplexed at this new petition. And i have to spectate these horrors from Europe...

Hi there,

Langburn here. The petition is a common sense one that extends a ban that exists against real life neo Nazis and fascists on other sites to NationStates.

Freedom of speech is one of the most fundamental and valuable rights in any liberal democracy. When we allow fascists and neo Nazis to destroy freedom of speech, we destroy democracy.

If anyone has any questions, please send me a telegram.

Make sure to sign our petition below:

https://forms.gle/FaKeD3XRRXcfvZdR9

Cheers,

The Langburn Islands

Drystar, Melicorium, Ipugao, and Frandella

Pryakane wrote:I am currently perplexed at this new petition. And i have to spectate these horrors from Europe...

Which petition? The anti-fascist one?

Greetings fellow Southern Pacificans...I'm totally a resident of the South Pacific and not from the North Pacific.

Yugobatania wrote:Greetings fellow Southern Pacificans...I'm totally a resident of the South Pacific and not from the North Pacific.

You fooled us!

"We've Been Tricked, We've Been Backstabbed and We've Been Quite Possibly, Bamboozled"

Yugobatania wrote:Greetings fellow Southern Pacificans...I'm totally a resident of the South Pacific and not from the North Pacific.

*sees "The North Pacific" in the upper right corner of your post*
Kinda sus, ngl

Hello am new player

Makcedonia

bugsnax

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Year 18 | 09 February 2021

FEBRUARY 2021 CABINET ELECTION
PRIME MINISTER DEBATE
Moderator: James D. Halpert | Participants: Jay Coop and Sandaoguo (Glen Rhodes)

Welcome to the February 2021 Prime Minister Debate!

I am James Halpert and I will be the moderator of this debate with Jay Coop and Sandaoguo (Glen Rhodes), candidates for Prime Minister. This debate is sponsored by the South Pacific Independent News Network.

The format of this debate will consist of three sections:

The first section will feature questions for all candidates on their qualifications, intended policies and their visions for the coming term.
The second section will feature specific questions for each candidate.
The third section will allow each candidate to ask one question to their opponent(s), after which a few minutes for discussion will be allowed.

Candidates are asked to clearly mark the end of their answers so that I may know when to invite the other candidate to answer or to move on to the next question and to answer no later than 3 minutes after a question has been asked. If any candidate wishes to respond to their opponent at any time, they should first ask for the floor; the goal of this is to keep an orderly flow of discussion and avoid excessive interruptions.


Opening Statements

[Jay Coop] Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this debate. It's great to be here, and I hope to have a spirited discussion with my opponent and give the people of the South Pacific an option in the prime ministerial election.

If you don't already know me, allow me to introduce myself. I'm Jay, and I am a former Cabinet minister. Serving as the MoRA, I co-organized Pacific-Con in early 2020 and later served as the MoFA, setting the stage for the Partnership for Sovereignty that we have today. I'm hoping to get your vote and make sure that we can develop the PfS into a bloc that reigns supreme.

[Sandaoguo] Hi TSP :tsp_heart: I've spent this last term helping out the Prime Minister lead the Cabinet, helping write statement and formulate policy. I'll spare a lengthy opening statement here, since it sounds like we're going to get into a lot! I'm excited to debate qualifications and policy with Jay, and hope this SPINN debate is both informative and illuminating for the upcoming election :slight_smile:

The outgoing Cabinet has received a fair amount of criticism for a lack of results, accountability and transparency. Why do you think that happened and how will you ensure that this changes under your premiership?

[Sandaoguo] From my vantage point as deputy to the Prime Minister, it was mostly leadership. Not all ministries were an issue-- Defense and Engagement were shining stars. But other ministries did suffer from lack of advanced planning, some biting off more than they can chew, and leadership at the top kind of waiting until the last minute to chide people into getting a move on. As Prime Minister, I'd make sure we establish reasonable and achievable goals from the start, commit to timelines, and most of all be more transparent and thus more accountable. I believe the region should be able to look through the window and see 90% of what the Cabinet does-- that would allow the Assembly to hold us accountable, but also provide a much-needed fire underneath the Cabinet as a whole.

[Jay Coop] I think that's a great question, and one that I'm quite familiar with after serving as MoRA. I think that there is often a cloak-and-dagger approach to regional government, especially in the realm of FA because of its security implications. I think we should move toward greater transparency by opening up a Cabinet discussion channel on Discord that is publicly-viewable while maintaining a restricted channel for other discussions that should remain private. For example, I don't think it's quite necessary to discuss Culture stuff privately. If people saw that these discussions were happening, I believe that the transparency would lead to accountability and maybe even foster discussion in Leg Lounge.

Would will your leadership style be? Do you intend to be an "ultimate deputy" or will you lead the Cabinet by coordinating a common agenda and holding every minister, and yourselves, accountable to it?

[Jay Coop] I would pursue a leadership style that allows me to pursue the agenda that I mentioned in the campaign, which is defender-oriented in that it is building up the PfS to become the preeminent bloc in the WA. That said, I would like to work with the rest of the Cabinet so they can pursue the agenda that they were elected to do. After all, all positions in the Cabinet are elected separately, and there are multiple mandates because of that.

[Follow-up for Jay Coop] Does that mean every minister will be left to pursue their own agendas, or can we expect a common and accountable Cabinet agenda, if you are elected?

[Jay Coop] I think that there are areas where I would like to work with the Cabinet to implement my agenda, which I brought up in an addendum, and I believe that we can synthesize the agenda to some extent, but I will also allow the ministers to work on the projects they've promised during this campaign or happen to make throughout the term.

[Sandaoguo] I believe in strong, forward leadership from the Prime Minister, and that's how I would approach leading. Strong doesn't mean brow-beating, but instead assertive in setting smart goals, keeping to timelines, and the like. Cabinet ministers should also be able to look to the Prime Minister to start important discussions and make decisions, rather than people regularly asking "should we do something about X?" or having debates linger on for weeks without resolution. That's also what the Assembly should be able to expect from their PM, too. If a question is asked, the PM should be able to provide a definitive answer in a reasonable amount of time, because they've already established the Cabinet agenda and are the prime person in it.The PM should really be a leader, much like they are in real life. I'm not sure how much simpler I could explain that. :stuck_out_tongue:

With the formation of the Partnership for Sovereignty and the recent tension with the North Pacific, foreign policy is at the forefront of executive decisions. What kind of approach can we expect under your premiership in terms of working with allies and handling disagreements with them?

[Sandaoguo] First, let me say that I respect the Charter sets foreign policy execution primarily with the Minister of Foreign Affairs. Heads of government meetings are not necessarily common. I do have extensive experience in this area, which I can draw from to make judgments that I link are best in TSP's long-term interests as a defender region. I would certainly be active and at the forefront of foreign policy-making within the Cabinet. But yes, the MoFA would be primarily responsible for direct engagement with allies and other foreign regions.

[Follow-up for Sandaoguo] Are there any red lines that you can think of, or any scenarios where you think a firm stance towards an ally would be warranted?

[Sandaoguo] Certainly. I would deeply disappointed if any ally were to engage in widespread region destruction. As for the TNP incident, I do believe in the tenants of the Partnership for Sovereignty, one of which is an opposition to approval or quorum raiding. Whether these would be "red lines" in the sense that we dissolve a treaty after one incident is debatable and depends on the significance of the incident. But we have values as a region, and shouldn't compromise those values for the benefit of an ally that routinely acts against them.

[Jay Coop] I believe that TSP's attention should first and foremost center on the PfS and its development, but that doesn't mean we should ignore the inflammatory statement that McMasterdonia made about defenders and his government thereafter accusing us of being illiterate. I think that the Cabinet made the right response to such an incendiary statement that questions TSP's commitment to anti-fascism. I think that we should hold McM accountable for the remarks he made, but whatever form that takes will be up to the MoFA and the Assembly. Back to my original point, though, I'd rather focus our efforts on the PfS, which represents the cornerstone of our foreign policy agenda at this time.

The past term has seen little in terms of a coherent home agenda; that is, cultural events and consistent media publications. Do you think there is anything you could do as Prime Minister to ensure that the "home ministries" succeed?

[Jay Coop] Yes, I would like to work with the next MoC to set up cultural festivities from time to time. I think that there is a demand for skribbl.io and Among Us, so I'll discuss that with them and see what we can do there. We could also look at perhaps holding a festival with other PfS members. As for the MoM, we need to fully revive The Southern Journal and compete with the new media landscape that now has NST and TRT at the center. As I said in my campaign, I hope to contribute a few articles myself and maybe get an editorial board together to write up opinion pieces. That could stimulate activity in TSP and give us a voice where other media have thrived.

[Sandaoguo] Absolutely, and I've dedicated a good portion of my campaign to it. Primarily, settings smart goals that are actually achievable is important. If it takes 2-3 months to execute something because it's so complex, I'm not sure that's a good use of our time. Similarly, biting off more than you can chew usually means you end up abandoning a project and losing all that invested time. Not good! As PM, and this might be a shocker to some!, I want to focus my own office's projects here at home. Like OWL, which I hope becomes its own executive office appointed by the PM. But also I'm looking at the Wiki and thinking of how that can be utilized in so many ways and integrated into the forums, etc. For media in particular, I'd like to see higher quality, more polished releases... preferably less interviews and more original work. And while I dream of a big TSP-run pub that's read to the level of NSToday or similar... "media" is a broad term, and starting off it's probably smarter to focus on doing TSP-related things really well first. Once media masters that, they'll have the groundwork to grow.

Desserts are a contentious issue in the region. Do you prefer cake or pie?

[Jay Coop] PIE!!!!!

[Sandaoguo] Pie, it's just no contest. Stop lying to yourself by saying cake is better :man_shrugging:

Glen, you have recently expressed a concern that foreign policy decisions could be made by ministers who were elected to lead "home" portfolios. How would decisions be made in the Cabinet if you are elected?

[Sandaoguo] 3 minutes is not a lot of time for a complex question! Overall, I think we need to have a real heart-to-heart about ministerial portfolios. I believe that, for instance in FA, the policy preference of the MoFA, PM, (and when relevant, the MoD), are significantly more important than the other ministers... because we elect the MoFA to do FA, MoD to work with MoFA, and the PM as our head of government (which necessitates foreign policy-making). I think there's a real disconnect and a potential for some bad outcomes democracy-wise if the ministers who don't actually have portfolio to do X are the ones overruling the ministers who actually do.

Jay, you have said in your campaign that you are most interested in foreign affairs issues. Given the lack of significant results in the "home ministries" during the past term, how would you assure voters that the Culture, Engagement and Media portfolios would still receive sufficient support under your premiership?

[Jay Coop] That is a good question. As a former MoRA, I worked nonstop to make sure that Pacific-Con was a success last year, so I believe that I can work with the MoC to make sure that we have events other activities from the ministry. As a former writer for NST and the MoRA, I believe I can make good use of this experience and help the MoM put out TSJ. I will also work to make sure that the MoE to ensure the completion of the dispatch project and continued development of TSP Encyclopedia. I believe that the experience I have in these areas can help translate into progress for these ministries.

Cross Questioning and Discussion

[Jay Coop] Glen, how will you work with the MoFA to ensure that the PfS will continue to grow and become a successful bloc?

[Sandaoguo] Firstly, I think the alliance needs a permanent forum of itself own. The infrastructure is important, but currently it's just a Discord server. That's not good for history, and 2 or 3 years down the line we'll regret that. Once the infrastructure is finalized, as far as expansion, I believe that the best way to recruit is to be seen acting. So in addition to the alliance reaching out to good potential members themselves, I'd like to see a good "propaganda" department there showing NS players just why they should join in. :slight_smile:

My main question to you would be... In your campaign, there's a lot of big projects discussed. Reinventing TSJ to rival NS Today, "globalizing SWAN," and the like. As PM, you'd only have so much time and energy. How would you make sure you could keep your campaign promises on those fronts?

[Jay Coop] I hope to work with the MoFA and the MoM as if these were group projects. I believe that I can pursue a multi-faceted agenda by discussing these things with each ministry and figuring out how to implement them. Given that our government is divided into ministries, I believe that I can follow through on these promises.

[Sandaoguo] I suppose "working with" is doing a lot of work there. My concern would be that we're entering into over-promising territory. I'm not sure you'd agree with that, but I thought I'd give me 2 cents there either way :stuck_out_tongue:

[Jay Coop] Yeah, you're always welcome to your opinion. I've been thinking up a second question, but I've come up with nothing. :stuck_out_tongue:

Would either of you wish to expand on any of your previous answers?

[Sandaoguo] Yes, just to say that regarding ministerial portfolios, I would look to reach an agreement internally among the Cabinet on areas of responsibility and how much non-portfolio ministers would expect to be involved in policy outside of their responsibility, and what "big" decisions should be whole-Cabinet. (This applies to more than just FA!) If we can iron that out during the transition, perhaps it's something that could be formalized for future Cabinets as well.

[Jay Coop] Yeah, I brought up the PfS multiple times, but I forgot to mention the endorsement deficit we have compared to the WALL. I think it's important for TSP to keep track of it and see it as an issue. Not only do we need more endorsements for our delegate, but we should also see to keeping track of the endorsements of other PfS delegates. Every endorsement they get is another vote in the WA, so I hope we see that as an important issue.

Closing Statements

[Jay Coop] Yes, thank you for having me. It's been great participating in this debate and discussing the pressing issues we have in TSP. I believe that, no matter who wins in this PM election, TSP wins in the end. I believe that Glen is a well-qualified candidate just as I am, but I hope to get more votes! :stuck_out_tongue:

So, with that in mind, please make sure to vote for Jay! Voting starts on the 11th at 9 pm UTC and ends on the 14th at 9 pm UTC. Vote! :ballot_box:

[Sandaoguo] Sure! :tsp_heart: I truly hope I've shown over this last term that I'm active and engaged in the success of TSP and our Cabinet. This debate has been wonderful and cordial! Honestly, this election season has been so much better than the last few, which I think were tainted by some ... problematic behavior. I'd like to thank Jay for being a nice debate partner :heart:

I hope I've been able to inspire some people still on the fence to cast their vote for me. There's still time before voting starts, and my campaign thread remains open for any more questions!

The South Pacific Independent News Network (SPINN) is an independent news organisation established in 2003 with the goal of providing good, insightful and timely commentary on regional events for the citizens of the South Pacific. Opinions expressed in this publication do not necessarily reflect the views of the Editorial Board. Content is published via pseudonyms. The SPINN is not associated with the Government of the South Pacific.

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Proctethia, Melicorium, Purple Hyacinth, Ipugao, and 2 othersFrandella, and Australimania

The Langburn Islands wrote:Hi there,

Langburn here. The petition is a common sense one that extends a ban that exists against real life neo Nazis and fascists on other sites to NationStates.

Freedom of speech is one of the most fundamental and valuable rights in any liberal democracy. When we allow fascists and neo Nazis to destroy freedom of speech, we destroy democracy.

If anyone has any questions, please send me a telegram.

Make sure to sign our petition below:

https://forms.gle/FaKeD3XRRXcfvZdR9

Cheers,

The Langburn Islands

While I’m sure the feeling is from the heart, I have to point out the irony of you wanting to stifle someone else’s speech from the game because you feel your freedom of speech might be threatened.

Frandella

Good morning.

Makcedonia wrote:bugsnax

Welcome to the South Pacific!
I am Stan Melix, Chairman of the United Socialist States of America (Melicorium) - you can just call me Melix.
*Gives you a fresh, cold can of Regular Sweetened Melicorian South Pacific Iced Tea, as well as two guides*
Read the first guide if you're interested in getting involved in our world-class community, and the second guide to get to know the RMB rules! ^_^

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Guides
.

Welcome to the South Pacific!

HOLD IT! This dispatch is really long. What’s the TL;DR, please?

Well, the game pretty much plays itself, but if you’re looking to get involved in the region beyond the basics, then there are a variety of things you can do:

  • First, join the World Assembly on the left, and endorse Beepee. This is the simplest way you can help strengthen our region against attack. Read this dispatch to learn more about why this important!

  • Once you're a member, consider visiting our LinkOffice of World Assembly Legislation (OWL) to debate resolutions and get recommendations on how to vote, as well as learning how to write your own WA resolutions.

  • Want to talk to all of us in real time, to get all your questions answered, to debate what there is to debate, or just to chill and have a drink of South Pacific Iced Tea? LinkJoin us on our Discord server.

  • Are you interested in writing and debating laws, and getting involved in the nitty-gritty of regional politics? Join our regional forum and Linksign up to be a legislator here.

  • Interested in helping to craft festivals, events, news articles, and graphics to keep everyone entertained and involved for a long time to come. Join us on LinkDiscord

  • Interested in the military? Do you want to go out into the wide world of NationStates to protect regions from attackers, and take the fight to them if necessary? The South Pacific Special Forces is just the thing for you. LinkJump on Discord to sign up.


Okay, I want more detail, but start with the basics, please!

So, you’ve just started playing NationStates and you’ve been randomly assigned to the South Pacific region. What now?

There’s already a great FAQ on the site that’s worth reading, but I’ll do my best to give you a basic run through here as well.

Firstly, you will want to get to know your nation and get a feel for how you can mould it to your will. This is done by answering issues, which pop up every six hours or so. [Pro-tip - you can change the frequency that you receive issues in your settings] Each issue has a number of possible decisions to choose from. These will usually cover a range of positions on the political spectrum, but they will also tend to be rather extreme - that’s part of the fun! When you’ve chosen which decision you want to take, you’ll get a screen showing you its effect on your nation, as your stats go up or down in various ways, as well as a humorous tagline which will usually make it sound like you made a bad decision (don’t worry, it’s just being funny).

Answering issues is the only way you can directly change your nation’s stats (except population, which just increases steadily over time as a measure of how long you’ve been playing - population milestones will unlock some new customisation features for your nation, like naming your capital city), and it is, basically the whole of the base game. Anything else NationStates has to offer is kinda added-on.

Indeed, the only other part of the game that connects directly to your nation is the World Assembly. It’s kinda like NationStates’ version of the UN, and if you join it you can vote on resolutions created by other nations, the outcome of which will affect your nation’s stats. You can only have one WA nation. Don’t try and have more than one - it’s a serious offence!

There’s more to being in the WA, but that’s the only part of it that affects your nation’s general stats and is, therefore, part of the basics of the game. We’ll look at the other features of being in the WA later.

Okay, so you said I’d been assigned to a region. What is a region anyway and can I change which region I’m in?

Well, regions in NationStates are communities which your nation can be part of. Each nation can only belong to one region at a time, but you are free to move your nation as much as you like, or you can create multiple nations to experience several regions at once.

The South Pacific is a Game-Created Region (GCR), meaning that it was not founded by an individual player and, as one of the five Pacifics, it serves the purpose of being a ‘feeder’ region, meaning it is where new nations are randomly assigned once they are created, because everybody has to start somewhere.

As such, there are a lot of nations in the South Pacific at any one time and nations come and go quite quickly, but this also means that the region is very diverse and inclusive and this is reflected in the aims of the regional government.

Wait, what? The region has a government?

Yes, but there’s more to tell you about regions first!

Okay…

You can find other regions by searching for them on ‘The World’ page and you can change your nation’s region by visiting the World Factbook Entry (WFE - here’s the South Pacific’s) of another region and then scrolling until you see a button labeled ‘Move [nation name] to [region name]’. Click it and you’re off!

Right. Are you going to tell me about the regional government, now? Is that, like, a roleplaying thing?

Yes, okay.

Firstly, the regional government of the South Pacific (known as the Coalition of the South Pacific) is not a roleplaying government, at least, not exactly. It is made up of individuals within the South Pacific who have been elected to office by others in the South Pacific and, once in office, they have real power over the community and what happens there. In that sense, at least, this is not roleplaying. They are not ‘in character’. It is, however, a kind of gameplay, as it allows people to ‘play’ at politics and enjoy another aspect of being part of this community.

So, how does it work?

Well, regional governments sprang up not long after the game was first created back in 2003. They grew up out of the delegate system, which is where nations which are members of the WA can endorse each other and the nation with the most endorsements in the region becomes the regional WA delegate, with increased voting power in the WA itself. That automatically creates a kind of democracy and, since the regional WA delegate has certain powers (like banning nations and editing the WFE), it became a desirable position and one that people wanted to make sure was used wisely.

The limitations of what is possible on regional message boards made regions begin to form the structures of government on off-site forums and, over time and through the work and effort of many ‘generations’ of players, those structures have evolved into fully-functioning governments.

The Coalition of the South Pacific (found Linkon these forums) is one of the oldest democracies in the game. It has Linka charter from which all our laws are derived, an Assembly which serves as the legislature of the coalition, creating and voting on laws and presided over by the Chair; a Cabinet consisting of a Prime Minister and the Ministers, respectively, of Regional Affairs, Foreign Affairs and Military Affairs, who serve as our executive; and a local government on the game website consisting of the Delegate and three Local Council members. All of these positions are elected at regular intervals, allowing players frequent opportunity to run for them.

That sounds interesting. How do I get involved?

The best thing to do is to join the forums here and Linkregister as a legislator, which will allow you to vote on laws. Then you should probably lurk a little while and look through old threads to see what people actually do in government and how it affects the community.

I’d also recommend joining Linkour Discord chat server. It’s great fun and a lot happens on there which is relevant to the forum-based government. Indeed, in many ways, it’s more active than the forums, with the latter serving as the place to store and action all our laws, debates and votes.

What else is there to do?

There is roleplaying on both the TSP forum and the NationStates forum. Most regions have their own journalism reporting on regional events and are keen to have new writers get involved. Our journalism is run by the Ministry of Regional Affairs, who also organise festivals and events and write guides like this to help welcome new players. You can join us Linkon our Discord server

There is military gameplay, which takes the form of using WA membership and delegate endorsement to ‘raid’ regions, taking over their in-game power-structure to make changes or just say that you’ve done it. Other’s ‘defend’ regions from attacks by raiders who seek to damage a region’s membership or culture. There are also independents, who raid or defend just for fun and don’t seek to cause any damage. (the South Pacific has it’s own independent army - the South Pacific Special Forces, which you can join Linkhere, or Linkon their Discord server. There are even special GCRs called Warzones designed just for this purpose.

And of course there’s the usual banter and word games, karaoke competitions, inter-regional festivals - all sorts of things really. There’s always something going on in NationStates!

But don’t be overwhelmed. Take your time, get involved in whatever you feel like whenever you feel like it and don’t stress. Above all, have fun and play nicely with other players!

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Hello! Welcome to the South Pacific, and its regional message board, or RMB! It is a vibrant, active place where people from all around the world can hang out and talk. It is the region's primary place of communication, and is open to all types of conversations, debates, and overall fun. However, without some form of rules, the RMB would be a wild, annoying, and downright un-enjoyable place. And so, due to this, rules must be laid down and enforced. These are important to protect everyone's safety, dignity, and sanity. So we all ask that you please take the time to read the following rules, and try your hardest to follow them. Remember, there are consequences for breaking the rules.

Note: The “Fundamental Rule” portion of each guideline is meant as a summary of the rule. The official text of the rule may be found in the “Details” spoiler.

Breaking these rules can result in consequences including warnings, post suppressions, and in the the case of repeated or serious infractions, ejection and banning from the region. The full, detailed Local Council Standard Moderation Policy, which specifies the exact consequences for various levels of rule-breaking, can be found here.

And so, after much introduction, here are your RMB Rules:

1. Say Neigh to Spam

Fundamental Rule: Don't spam. Spamming is bad. It is the first rule for a reason.

Details:
Spamming on the RMB is not allowed at all, under any circumstances. Spamming is probably best described as a post that is meaningless and/or unnecessary— for example, a post that repeats the same thing multiple times, a lone emoji or image, multiple posts of the same thing, or a series of posts that have no apparent meaning. It does not matter what your intent is— if your post(s) fits the above definition, it is considered spam and will be dealt with accordingly.

2. English is our Mane Language

Fundamental Rule: Posts on the Regional Message Board must be in English, or include an English translation.

Details:
We understand that many of you come from backgrounds where English is not your main language, as players come from all around the world. However, to avoid confusion among people who don't speak your language, we sincerely ask that you post in English only, for ease of communication.

Remember, there are tools like LinkGoogle Translate to help you. If you speak in another language, please add a translation to English in the same post. Posts with English translations will not be suppressed. For the avoidance of doubt, English means Modern English and not backwards English.

3. Keep Our Region Stable

Fundamental Rule: Don’t ask for people to endorse you on the Regional Message Board. Don’t ask for people to move to another region.

Details:
Asking for endorsements on the RMB is not allowed at all, under any circumstances. Ever. Permissions are only made if the requester is a member of the Council on Regional Security or the Delegate seeking to increase endorsement counts for the purposes of promoting regional security.

If you want to receive and give more endorsements, get involved in the Southern World Assembly Initiative, TSP’s endorsement program.

Similarly, recruiting, or telling people to move to another region, is also not allowed. You may not ask people to join your region on the RMB, whether you are also a South Pacifican citizen yourself or not.

4. So a Horse walks into a bar ...

Fundamental Rule: Roleplay on the Regional Message Board, but do not break any other rules. If you're feeling nice or your roleplay is a bit niche or particularly nation driven, please consider taking your roleplaying to Knowhere or Psomewhere Over The Rainbow.

Details:
It's all legal! As long as it complies with the rules. Specifically; remember to keep your roleplays appropriate (as stated in rule IX). The LC has reached a general conclusion on what is appropriate, and if your roleplay does not fit within those boundaries, it will be stopped. So, excessive display of affection, sexually-suggesting roleplay, and the like, are not allowed at all.

Similarly, do not clog the RMB with your roleplay. If you feel it has been going on for a while, either take it to a roleplay region, or cease it all together. Otherwise, it may be interfered with. When the board is dominated by roleplay, it becomes hard for everyone else to communicate with each-other, thanks to the overabundance of posts completely unrelated to what they are doing.

But other than those things, feel free to roleplay to your heart's content!

5. Hold your Horses

Fundamental Rule: Don’t post on the Regional Message Board twice or more in a row.

Details:
Double posting, or posting two posts in a row, is considered illegal, as are any other number of posts more than one in a row. All posts after the initial post will be suppressed. If one hour has passed without another post on the RMB a single second post will be allowed

6. Keep your nose in your own feedbag

Fundamental Rule: Don’t reveal other players’ personal information.

Details:
It is not permitted to post or otherwise share another player's personally-identifying information (i.e. social media accounts, IP addresses, postal addresses, E-mail addresses, telephone numbers, etc.), and neither is it permitted to post or share information that may not be identifying but is nonetheless of a personal nature (i.e. medical history, relationship status, etc.). The only exception is if the player in question has shared that information themselves and does not mind its dissemination (this sharing or statement of permission must be publically viewable).

Making a claim of serious out-of-character misconduct (e.g. bullying, harassment, sexual harassment, etc.) against someone else, without providing evidence to moderation/administration, is considered malicious harassment, and will be dealt with accordingly. This rule applies to the TSP forum and discord as well.

7. Get Off Your High Horse

Fundamental Rule: Trolling, baiting or flaming of others is not allowed under any circumstances.

Details:
Trolling is defined as starting quarrels or upsetting people by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages with the intent of provoking other nations into displaying emotional responses. Baiting is similar to trolling, and is defined as posting with the aim of angering someone indirectly, directed at a specific person. Flaming is defined as posting insults or other verbal and often personal attacks on other nations. Erudite slams while maintaining a veneer of politeness can also be considered flaming. All three of these are banned under all circumstances.

This is an extension of a simple policy of respect. What may seem like good natured fun to you could be trolling to someone else, and if they tell you to stop, do so.
We can and will warn, suppress, and even ban you, as well as record the incident. In severe cases the NationStates Moderators will be contacted, and puppets will not hide your IP address from them.

8. You Canter Break Site Rules

Fundamental Rule: No matter where you are in NationStates, the rules for the game still apply.

Details:
TSP is a part of NationStates, and as such, you must follow the rules of the game as a whole at all times. Breaking the game rules will land you in trouble with both the regional officers and NationStates site moderation. See the link below for the list of rules and a quick FAQ page for more details on the game rules.

NationStates Rules

NationStates FAQ

9. Mind Your Dam Manners

Fundamental Rule: Don’t post anything that would not be allowed in a PG-13 movie.

Details:
Excessive swearing, explicit, suggestive, or excessively violent messages, sexual references, and other such things will be suppressed on sight, and the NationStates site moderators can and will be called to get involved in serious cases. Excessive displays of personal affection (e.g. suggestive roleplayed snuggling, nuzzling, kissing, licking and so on) is also considered inappropriate and will be suppressed accordingly.

Mild swearing may be tolerated, mild sexuality may be at the very most hinted, but explicit or excessive versions of either or both will result in moderation intervention, both from the Local Council and potentially from NationStates site moderators. Derogatory terms are disallowed, and all swearing must abide by all other rules, particularly those about respecting others.

10. Straight from the horse’s mouth

Fundamental Rule: Do not edit someone's post in a malicious way or repost offensive content.

Details:
It is illegal to edit what someone else has written when quoting it in order to make it seem like they expressed a view which they didn’t. Quote-editing should be avoided even for comic effect.

When you are responding to someone's post, please quote their post (by pressing the "quote" button), as it makes it less confusing and will alert them to your post.

When quoting an offensive post, delete the content of the post and replace it with "-snip-". Doing so makes the administrators’ jobs much easier.

When quoting long posts, please cut the post down to the particular parts you are responding to, or replace the extraneous material with "-snip-".

11. Crop Your Post

Fundamental Rule: Use spoilers when making or quoting a very long post.

Details:
The [spoiler] tag is your friend. When making or quoting a very long post, or one which not everyone might want to read, please add spoilers, so as to avoid taking up a large amount of the page.

If you are giving a spoiler of a recently released book or film, put it in a spoiler tag, to give people who haven't read/watched it a chance. As a general rule of thumb, give a month for films post-release (as release dates may be different in different areas) and two months for book releases.

12. Rein In Rudeness

Fundamental Rule: The golden rule: treat others how you want to be treated.

Details:
Remember, there are other, real people behind the nations on the RMB. Everyone here is a human being with emotions and the right to be respected.

While dissent with regional officers (LC, Delegate, CRS, and Ministers) is perfectly acceptable, remember that they are people too, and worthy of basic human decency. The regional officers should be respected at all times just as any other member of the region should.

When debating, always remember to attack the argument rather than the person making it. If you find yourself getting heated, try to take a step back. Personal insults, insults to intelligence, etc. will not be tolerated. The only form of debate banned on the RMB is that over a particular suppression. For more information, see the Help Section at the end of this document.

13. Don't Ride on Foals

Fundamental Rule: Single word or similarly short posts are not appreciated on the RMB.

Details:
Single word posts that do not advance conversation are not allowed. If you find yourself wondering if a post is both unsubstantial and too short, it likely is. This rule does not mean you have to post several paragraphs of content every time you want to post. Single sentence posts and single-word replies quoting other posts are still allowed under this rule.

However, at the discretion of the Local Council, posts deemed to be insubstantial and not contributing to the regional discourse will be suppressed. An excellent way to avoid this is to add thought to your posts.

Thank you for reading, and remember to follow these guidelines!

Now sit back, relax, and enjoy your stay here in TSP!

~~~HELP!~~~

If you believe a post breaks the rules and should be suppressed, wish to appeal to have a post unsuppressed, wish to appeal a formal warning, or have any questions about the laws of the RMB, you can contact your current Local Councillors through telegrams:

Auphelia
Concrete Slab
Melicorium

OR

Lodge complaints or comments with the following nation:

The TSP Local Council

This nation is controlled by the LC, ensuring all Local Councillors can see your complaints or comments. Remember, the rules of respect apply to telegrams as well as the RMB.

Official moderation appeals must follow the process laid out in the Standard Moderation Policy dispatch.



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Since I have nothing to do.

Random Fact:
Swiss neutrality began 500 years ago after the end of Swiss expansionism.

Melicorium wrote:Welcome to the South Pacific!
I am Stan Melix, Chairman of the United Socialist States of America (Melicorium) - you can just call me Melix.
*Gives you a fresh, cold can of Regular Sweetened Melicorian South Pacific Iced Tea, as well as two guides*
Read the first guide if you're interested in getting involved in our world-class community, and the second guide to get to know the RMB rules! ^_^
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Guides
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Welcome to the South Pacific!

HOLD IT! This dispatch is really long. What’s the TL;DR, please?

Well, the game pretty much plays itself, but if you’re looking to get involved in the region beyond the basics, then there are a variety of things you can do:

  • First, join the World Assembly on the left, and endorse Beepee. This is the simplest way you can help strengthen our region against attack. Read this dispatch to learn more about why this important!

  • Once you're a member, consider visiting our LinkOffice of World Assembly Legislation (OWL) to debate resolutions and get recommendations on how to vote, as well as learning how to write your own WA resolutions.

  • Want to talk to all of us in real time, to get all your questions answered, to debate what there is to debate, or just to chill and have a drink of South Pacific Iced Tea? LinkJoin us on our Discord server.

  • Are you interested in writing and debating laws, and getting involved in the nitty-gritty of regional politics? Join our regional forum and Linksign up to be a legislator here.

  • Interested in helping to craft festivals, events, news articles, and graphics to keep everyone entertained and involved for a long time to come. Join us on LinkDiscord

  • Interested in the military? Do you want to go out into the wide world of NationStates to protect regions from attackers, and take the fight to them if necessary? The South Pacific Special Forces is just the thing for you. LinkJump on Discord to sign up.


Okay, I want more detail, but start with the basics, please!

So, you’ve just started playing NationStates and you’ve been randomly assigned to the South Pacific region. What now?

There’s already a great FAQ on the site that’s worth reading, but I’ll do my best to give you a basic run through here as well.

Firstly, you will want to get to know your nation and get a feel for how you can mould it to your will. This is done by answering issues, which pop up every six hours or so. [Pro-tip - you can change the frequency that you receive issues in your settings] Each issue has a number of possible decisions to choose from. These will usually cover a range of positions on the political spectrum, but they will also tend to be rather extreme - that’s part of the fun! When you’ve chosen which decision you want to take, you’ll get a screen showing you its effect on your nation, as your stats go up or down in various ways, as well as a humorous tagline which will usually make it sound like you made a bad decision (don’t worry, it’s just being funny).

Answering issues is the only way you can directly change your nation’s stats (except population, which just increases steadily over time as a measure of how long you’ve been playing - population milestones will unlock some new customisation features for your nation, like naming your capital city), and it is, basically the whole of the base game. Anything else NationStates has to offer is kinda added-on.

Indeed, the only other part of the game that connects directly to your nation is the World Assembly. It’s kinda like NationStates’ version of the UN, and if you join it you can vote on resolutions created by other nations, the outcome of which will affect your nation’s stats. You can only have one WA nation. Don’t try and have more than one - it’s a serious offence!

There’s more to being in the WA, but that’s the only part of it that affects your nation’s general stats and is, therefore, part of the basics of the game. We’ll look at the other features of being in the WA later.

Okay, so you said I’d been assigned to a region. What is a region anyway and can I change which region I’m in?

Well, regions in NationStates are communities which your nation can be part of. Each nation can only belong to one region at a time, but you are free to move your nation as much as you like, or you can create multiple nations to experience several regions at once.

The South Pacific is a Game-Created Region (GCR), meaning that it was not founded by an individual player and, as one of the five Pacifics, it serves the purpose of being a ‘feeder’ region, meaning it is where new nations are randomly assigned once they are created, because everybody has to start somewhere.

As such, there are a lot of nations in the South Pacific at any one time and nations come and go quite quickly, but this also means that the region is very diverse and inclusive and this is reflected in the aims of the regional government.

Wait, what? The region has a government?

Yes, but there’s more to tell you about regions first!

Okay…

You can find other regions by searching for them on ‘The World’ page and you can change your nation’s region by visiting the World Factbook Entry (WFE - here’s the South Pacific’s) of another region and then scrolling until you see a button labeled ‘Move [nation name] to [region name]’. Click it and you’re off!

Right. Are you going to tell me about the regional government, now? Is that, like, a roleplaying thing?

Yes, okay.

Firstly, the regional government of the South Pacific (known as the Coalition of the South Pacific) is not a roleplaying government, at least, not exactly. It is made up of individuals within the South Pacific who have been elected to office by others in the South Pacific and, once in office, they have real power over the community and what happens there. In that sense, at least, this is not roleplaying. They are not ‘in character’. It is, however, a kind of gameplay, as it allows people to ‘play’ at politics and enjoy another aspect of being part of this community.

So, how does it work?

Well, regional governments sprang up not long after the game was first created back in 2003. They grew up out of the delegate system, which is where nations which are members of the WA can endorse each other and the nation with the most endorsements in the region becomes the regional WA delegate, with increased voting power in the WA itself. That automatically creates a kind of democracy and, since the regional WA delegate has certain powers (like banning nations and editing the WFE), it became a desirable position and one that people wanted to make sure was used wisely.

The limitations of what is possible on regional message boards made regions begin to form the structures of government on off-site forums and, over time and through the work and effort of many ‘generations’ of players, those structures have evolved into fully-functioning governments.

The Coalition of the South Pacific (found Linkon these forums) is one of the oldest democracies in the game. It has Linka charter from which all our laws are derived, an Assembly which serves as the legislature of the coalition, creating and voting on laws and presided over by the Chair; a Cabinet consisting of a Prime Minister and the Ministers, respectively, of Regional Affairs, Foreign Affairs and Military Affairs, who serve as our executive; and a local government on the game website consisting of the Delegate and three Local Council members. All of these positions are elected at regular intervals, allowing players frequent opportunity to run for them.

That sounds interesting. How do I get involved?

The best thing to do is to join the forums here and Linkregister as a legislator, which will allow you to vote on laws. Then you should probably lurk a little while and look through old threads to see what people actually do in government and how it affects the community.

I’d also recommend joining Linkour Discord chat server. It’s great fun and a lot happens on there which is relevant to the forum-based government. Indeed, in many ways, it’s more active than the forums, with the latter serving as the place to store and action all our laws, debates and votes.

What else is there to do?

There is roleplaying on both the TSP forum and the NationStates forum. Most regions have their own journalism reporting on regional events and are keen to have new writers get involved. Our journalism is run by the Ministry of Regional Affairs, who also organise festivals and events and write guides like this to help welcome new players. You can join us Linkon our Discord server

There is military gameplay, which takes the form of using WA membership and delegate endorsement to ‘raid’ regions, taking over their in-game power-structure to make changes or just say that you’ve done it. Other’s ‘defend’ regions from attacks by raiders who seek to damage a region’s membership or culture. There are also independents, who raid or defend just for fun and don’t seek to cause any damage. (the South Pacific has it’s own independent army - the South Pacific Special Forces, which you can join Linkhere, or Linkon their Discord server. There are even special GCRs called Warzones designed just for this purpose.

And of course there’s the usual banter and word games, karaoke competitions, inter-regional festivals - all sorts of things really. There’s always something going on in NationStates!

But don’t be overwhelmed. Take your time, get involved in whatever you feel like whenever you feel like it and don’t stress. Above all, have fun and play nicely with other players!

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Hello! Welcome to the South Pacific, and its regional message board, or RMB! It is a vibrant, active place where people from all around the world can hang out and talk. It is the region's primary place of communication, and is open to all types of conversations, debates, and overall fun. However, without some form of rules, the RMB would be a wild, annoying, and downright un-enjoyable place. And so, due to this, rules must be laid down and enforced. These are important to protect everyone's safety, dignity, and sanity. So we all ask that you please take the time to read the following rules, and try your hardest to follow them. Remember, there are consequences for breaking the rules.

Note: The “Fundamental Rule” portion of each guideline is meant as a summary of the rule. The official text of the rule may be found in the “Details” spoiler.

Breaking these rules can result in consequences including warnings, post suppressions, and in the the case of repeated or serious infractions, ejection and banning from the region. The full, detailed Local Council Standard Moderation Policy, which specifies the exact consequences for various levels of rule-breaking, can be found here.

And so, after much introduction, here are your RMB Rules:

1. Say Neigh to Spam

Fundamental Rule: Don't spam. Spamming is bad. It is the first rule for a reason.

Details:
Spamming on the RMB is not allowed at all, under any circumstances. Spamming is probably best described as a post that is meaningless and/or unnecessary— for example, a post that repeats the same thing multiple times, a lone emoji or image, multiple posts of the same thing, or a series of posts that have no apparent meaning. It does not matter what your intent is— if your post(s) fits the above definition, it is considered spam and will be dealt with accordingly.

2. English is our Mane Language

Fundamental Rule: Posts on the Regional Message Board must be in English, or include an English translation.

Details:
We understand that many of you come from backgrounds where English is not your main language, as players come from all around the world. However, to avoid confusion among people who don't speak your language, we sincerely ask that you post in English only, for ease of communication.

Remember, there are tools like LinkGoogle Translate to help you. If you speak in another language, please add a translation to English in the same post. Posts with English translations will not be suppressed. For the avoidance of doubt, English means Modern English and not backwards English.

3. Keep Our Region Stable

Fundamental Rule: Don’t ask for people to endorse you on the Regional Message Board. Don’t ask for people to move to another region.

Details:
Asking for endorsements on the RMB is not allowed at all, under any circumstances. Ever. Permissions are only made if the requester is a member of the Council on Regional Security or the Delegate seeking to increase endorsement counts for the purposes of promoting regional security.

If you want to receive and give more endorsements, get involved in the Southern World Assembly Initiative, TSP’s endorsement program.

Similarly, recruiting, or telling people to move to another region, is also not allowed. You may not ask people to join your region on the RMB, whether you are also a South Pacifican citizen yourself or not.

4. So a Horse walks into a bar ...

Fundamental Rule: Roleplay on the Regional Message Board, but do not break any other rules. If you're feeling nice or your roleplay is a bit niche or particularly nation driven, please consider taking your roleplaying to Knowhere or Psomewhere Over The Rainbow.

Details:
It's all legal! As long as it complies with the rules. Specifically; remember to keep your roleplays appropriate (as stated in rule IX). The LC has reached a general conclusion on what is appropriate, and if your roleplay does not fit within those boundaries, it will be stopped. So, excessive display of affection, sexually-suggesting roleplay, and the like, are not allowed at all.

Similarly, do not clog the RMB with your roleplay. If you feel it has been going on for a while, either take it to a roleplay region, or cease it all together. Otherwise, it may be interfered with. When the board is dominated by roleplay, it becomes hard for everyone else to communicate with each-other, thanks to the overabundance of posts completely unrelated to what they are doing.

But other than those things, feel free to roleplay to your heart's content!

5. Hold your Horses

Fundamental Rule: Don’t post on the Regional Message Board twice or more in a row.

Details:
Double posting, or posting two posts in a row, is considered illegal, as are any other number of posts more than one in a row. All posts after the initial post will be suppressed. If one hour has passed without another post on the RMB a single second post will be allowed

6. Keep your nose in your own feedbag

Fundamental Rule: Don’t reveal other players’ personal information.

Details:
It is not permitted to post or otherwise share another player's personally-identifying information (i.e. social media accounts, IP addresses, postal addresses, E-mail addresses, telephone numbers, etc.), and neither is it permitted to post or share information that may not be identifying but is nonetheless of a personal nature (i.e. medical history, relationship status, etc.). The only exception is if the player in question has shared that information themselves and does not mind its dissemination (this sharing or statement of permission must be publically viewable).

Making a claim of serious out-of-character misconduct (e.g. bullying, harassment, sexual harassment, etc.) against someone else, without providing evidence to moderation/administration, is considered malicious harassment, and will be dealt with accordingly. This rule applies to the TSP forum and discord as well.

7. Get Off Your High Horse

Fundamental Rule: Trolling, baiting or flaming of others is not allowed under any circumstances.

Details:
Trolling is defined as starting quarrels or upsetting people by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages with the intent of provoking other nations into displaying emotional responses. Baiting is similar to trolling, and is defined as posting with the aim of angering someone indirectly, directed at a specific person. Flaming is defined as posting insults or other verbal and often personal attacks on other nations. Erudite slams while maintaining a veneer of politeness can also be considered flaming. All three of these are banned under all circumstances.

This is an extension of a simple policy of respect. What may seem like good natured fun to you could be trolling to someone else, and if they tell you to stop, do so.
We can and will warn, suppress, and even ban you, as well as record the incident. In severe cases the NationStates Moderators will be contacted, and puppets will not hide your IP address from them.

8. You Canter Break Site Rules

Fundamental Rule: No matter where you are in NationStates, the rules for the game still apply.

Details:
TSP is a part of NationStates, and as such, you must follow the rules of the game as a whole at all times. Breaking the game rules will land you in trouble with both the regional officers and NationStates site moderation. See the link below for the list of rules and a quick FAQ page for more details on the game rules.

NationStates Rules

NationStates FAQ

9. Mind Your Dam Manners

Fundamental Rule: Don’t post anything that would not be allowed in a PG-13 movie.

Details:
Excessive swearing, explicit, suggestive, or excessively violent messages, sexual references, and other such things will be suppressed on sight, and the NationStates site moderators can and will be called to get involved in serious cases. Excessive displays of personal affection (e.g. suggestive roleplayed snuggling, nuzzling, kissing, licking and so on) is also considered inappropriate and will be suppressed accordingly.

Mild swearing may be tolerated, mild sexuality may be at the very most hinted, but explicit or excessive versions of either or both will result in moderation intervention, both from the Local Council and potentially from NationStates site moderators. Derogatory terms are disallowed, and all swearing must abide by all other rules, particularly those about respecting others.

10. Straight from the horse’s mouth

Fundamental Rule: Do not edit someone's post in a malicious way or repost offensive content.

Details:
It is illegal to edit what someone else has written when quoting it in order to make it seem like they expressed a view which they didn’t. Quote-editing should be avoided even for comic effect.

When you are responding to someone's post, please quote their post (by pressing the "quote" button), as it makes it less confusing and will alert them to your post.

When quoting an offensive post, delete the content of the post and replace it with "-snip-". Doing so makes the administrators’ jobs much easier.

When quoting long posts, please cut the post down to the particular parts you are responding to, or replace the extraneous material with "-snip-".

11. Crop Your Post

Fundamental Rule: Use spoilers when making or quoting a very long post.

Details:
The [spoiler] tag is your friend. When making or quoting a very long post, or one which not everyone might want to read, please add spoilers, so as to avoid taking up a large amount of the page.

If you are giving a spoiler of a recently released book or film, put it in a spoiler tag, to give people who haven't read/watched it a chance. As a general rule of thumb, give a month for films post-release (as release dates may be different in different areas) and two months for book releases.

12. Rein In Rudeness

Fundamental Rule: The golden rule: treat others how you want to be treated.

Details:
Remember, there are other, real people behind the nations on the RMB. Everyone here is a human being with emotions and the right to be respected.

While dissent with regional officers (LC, Delegate, CRS, and Ministers) is perfectly acceptable, remember that they are people too, and worthy of basic human decency. The regional officers should be respected at all times just as any other member of the region should.

When debating, always remember to attack the argument rather than the person making it. If you find yourself getting heated, try to take a step back. Personal insults, insults to intelligence, etc. will not be tolerated. The only form of debate banned on the RMB is that over a particular suppression. For more information, see the Help Section at the end of this document.

13. Don't Ride on Foals

Fundamental Rule: Single word or similarly short posts are not appreciated on the RMB.

Details:
Single word posts that do not advance conversation are not allowed. If you find yourself wondering if a post is both unsubstantial and too short, it likely is. This rule does not mean you have to post several paragraphs of content every time you want to post. Single sentence posts and single-word replies quoting other posts are still allowed under this rule.

However, at the discretion of the Local Council, posts deemed to be insubstantial and not contributing to the regional discourse will be suppressed. An excellent way to avoid this is to add thought to your posts.

Thank you for reading, and remember to follow these guidelines!

Now sit back, relax, and enjoy your stay here in TSP!

~~~HELP!~~~

If you believe a post breaks the rules and should be suppressed, wish to appeal to have a post unsuppressed, wish to appeal a formal warning, or have any questions about the laws of the RMB, you can contact your current Local Councillors through telegrams:

Auphelia
Concrete Slab
Melicorium

OR

Lodge complaints or comments with the following nation:

The TSP Local Council

This nation is controlled by the LC, ensuring all Local Councillors can see your complaints or comments. Remember, the rules of respect apply to telegrams as well as the RMB.

Official moderation appeals must follow the process laid out in the Standard Moderation Policy dispatch.



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I meant to quote Ubrax, not Bugsnax! >~<

Makcedonia

cheese eaters

Drystar wrote:While I’m sure the feeling is from the heart, I have to point out the irony of you wanting to stifle someone else’s speech from the game because you feel your freedom of speech might be threatened.

Indeed the irony.

Not to mention there's plenty a nations RPing fascist nations; not intending get that banned that either, no matter how vile the ideology is.

Makcedonia

authoritarian gang rise up

Makcedonia wrote:cheese eaters

Certainly. A sandwich without cheese is just animal byproduct between two slabs of processed grain.

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