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Free neuferialis wrote:Did you know capitalism is responsible for bailing out millions for former commie citizens from poverty. Sure there are downsides (inequality, environmental damage, etc) but it's the best so far. It just needs some regulations

Those will not be enough. You cannot trust business owners or the government (capitalist puppets, most of them) to do the right thing. They will only do what makes them richer.

Is it fair that some have a hundred billion dollars and others have none? Is it fair that some get better basic needs than others?

Free neuferialis wrote:*reveals* not so great after all huh?

*gets shot and dies*
Whoops, negligent discharge UwU.

Free neuferialis wrote:Fair but ito the best system so far, better than Communism! All it needs is a little control so it doesn't go to far

Beatitas wrote:Those will not be enough. You cannot trust business owners or the government (capitalist puppets, most of them) to do the right thing. They will only do what makes them richer.

Is it fair that some have a hundred billion dollars and others have none? Is it fair that some get better basic needs than others?

Free neuferialis wrote:The regulated Capitalist one. Not the socialist democracy one

It's called democratic socialism.

Free neuferialis

Beatitas wrote:Those will not be enough. You cannot trust business owners or the government (capitalist puppets, most of them) to do the right thing. They will only do what makes them richer.

Is it fair that some have a hundred billion dollars and others have none? Is it fair that some get better basic needs than others?

I'm feeling some anarchocommie beliefs here.

Beatitas wrote:Those will not be enough. You cannot trust business owners or the government (capitalist puppets, most of them) to do the right thing. They will only do what makes them richer.

Is it fair that some have a hundred billion dollars and others have none? Is it fair that some get better basic needs than others?

We need to revert back to tribal societies and make bartering the lead economic system.

Aidviet union and Beatitas

Free neuferialis

Beatitas wrote:It's called democratic socialism.

Ja but they really need to change that name otherwise people would think differently

Free neuferialis wrote:I'm feeling some anarchocommie beliefs here.

Also, there is not infinite value in the world. Capitalists just want to make more and more money! Think, when there is no free value left in the world, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Free neuferialis wrote:Ja but they really need to change that name otherwise people would think differently

If you have enough initiative to do a quick Google search it wouldn't be a problem.

Free neuferialis

Beatitas wrote:Also, there is not infinite value in the world. Capitalists just want to make more and more money! Think, when there is no free value left in the world, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

FIRST of, yes Capitalistsir are greedy, but isn't greed just part of human nature? Even you have some greed! Second the poor get poorer beliefs isn't always true. If the government protect workers and unions as well as creating welfare it would be stable

I watched the Sam Raimi Spider-man trilogy in Netflix, it was nostalgic..

Free neuferialis

A capitalist socialist system should combine. The wealth created by capitalism could be used to help the common man. That's how you create a good society

Aidviet union and Coryanhafflaruda

Free neuferialis wrote:FIRST of, yes Capitalistsir are greedy, but isn't greed just part of human nature? Even you have some greed! Second the poor get poorer beliefs isn't always true. If the government protect workers and unions as well as creating welfare it would be stable

Capitalism only exacerbates human greed. Still, welfare is not enough.

Capitalists try to maximize profit, so they pay workers as little as possible to sell something for as high a price as possible. Workers do not get paid enough, nor will they unless socialism is implemented! Is it not fair that those who work collectively own the products and the means to produce?

Capitalism also withholds us. What if I want to work in the United Nations? But then I learn it doesn't pay enough! So I have to slave away at something I don't enjoy. So does most of the world.

Capitalism also gives us economic crises! Sudden! It suffers from a crisis of overproduction, yet the world hungers and thirsts!

Free neuferialis wrote:A capitalist socialist system should combine. The wealth created by capitalism could be used to help the common man. That's how you create a good society

A pure socialist system is better. If you work in jobs you like, producing what you like, then everyone can receive what they need.

The New United Socialist Random Empire wrote:We need to revert back to tribal societies and make bartering the lead economic system.

Nah, mutual aid for the win!

Free neuferialis

Beatitas wrote:A pure socialist system is better. If you work in jobs you like, producing what you like, then everyone can receive what they need.

Yeah... Venezuela didn't go well

Free neuferialis wrote:Yeah... Venezuela didn't go well

They did it wrong. Socialism is meant to be democratic.

Beatitas wrote:They did it wrong. Socialism is meant to be democratic.

Socialism, by definition, is democratic.

Free neuferialis

Beatitas wrote:Capitalism only exacerbates human greed. Still, welfare is not enough.

Capitalists try to maximize profit, so they pay workers as little as possible to sell something for as high a price as possible. Workers do not get paid enough, nor will they unless socialism is implemented! Is it not fair that those who work collectively own the products and the means to produce?

Capitalism also withholds us. What if I want to work in the United Nations? But then I learn it doesn't pay enough! So I have to slave away at something I don't enjoy. So does most of the world.

Capitalism also gives us economic crises! Sudden! It suffers from a crisis of overproduction, yet the world hungers and thirsts!

1. I will admit that is true
2. Government regulations and a minimum wage solves the lack of payment. For price... that's where the free market comes in. We want to pay as little as possible right? Well the competitor who is against the other competitor with high prices lowers them to increase sales. The other company does the same and there you go.
3. If you don't want to work for another company, start your own, or do something that you actually love if you have the education for it
4. You can't blame capital-ISM, it the capital-ISTS. Plus when it goes down there is an up. That's the free market

Free neuferialis

Beatitas wrote:They did it wrong. Socialism is meant to be democratic.

Government today is pure wack. They will always go wrong when it comes to complete control. Democracy could work in capitalism

Beatitas wrote:To be fair, Cuba has improved under socialism.

Tell that capitalism is good to Iraq, Iran, Nicaragua, Chile, Cuba, Thailand, Vietnam, Bolivia, Cambodia, Grenada, and Panama!

Actually, Cuba in all fairness had nowhere to go but up. They've also been improving at approximately the rate of technological advancement. And those countries all either had a bad start or crippling foreign intervention. The only one with negative growth among them is Iran. Also, Panama is the wealthiest country in Central America. Vietnam is experiencing tremendous growth by the way, so don't tell me it isn't working fine. The problem with your examples is that you're starting really low, so they haven't had time to recuperate. What matters when looking at this is growth rates.

Beatitas wrote:Capitalism only exacerbates human greed. Still, welfare is not enough.

Capitalists try to maximize profit, so they pay workers as little as possible to sell something for as high a price as possible. Workers do not get paid enough, nor will they unless socialism is implemented! Is it not fair that those who work collectively own the products and the means to produce?

Capitalism also withholds us. What if I want to work in the United Nations? But then I learn it doesn't pay enough! So I have to slave away at something I don't enjoy. So does most of the world.

Capitalism also gives us economic crises! Sudden! It suffers from a crisis of overproduction, yet the world hungers and thirsts!

The poor will one day become the rich and the rich to become the poor!-???

Free neuferialis

Voopmont wrote:Actually, Cuba in all fairness had nowhere to go but up. They've also been improving at approximately the rate of technological advancement. And those countries all either had a bad start or crippling foreign intervention. The only one with negative growth among them is Iran. Also, Panama is the wealthiest country in Central America. Vietnam is experiencing tremendous growth by the way, so don't tell me it isn't working fine. The problem with your examples is that you're starting really low, so they haven't had time to recuperate. What matters when looking at this is growth rates.

Thank you for backing me

Beatitas wrote:Socialism, by definition, is democratic.

And what was the last socialist democracy the world had on a national level?

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