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Oh and the original Byzantine colonies became Kyria’s equivalent to Provincia Graecia, retaining its Romanised Greek culture albeit once more Hellenist.

Essentially I took after the video linked but added more stuff to bring it closer to Roman Rome rather than Greek Rome: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uMVBaYrdzbw

Graag brom and Nu Alaska

Kyria wrote:Oh and the original Byzantine colonies became Kyria’s equivalent to Provincia Graecia, retaining its Romanised Greek culture albeit once more Hellenist.

Essentially I took after the video linked but added more stuff to bring it closer to Roman Rome rather than Greek Rome: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uMVBaYrdzbw

(*Hellenists syncretizing with native religions and the Norse in order to have more influence+keep things stable, resulting in an expanded pantheon among at least the outskirts of society.*
*Issue of polygamy is raised early on after the first Hellenic Emperor is crowned, when North American chieftain subject to Elysia presents daughter's hand in marriage as part of a gift to the Emperor.*
*Awkwardly sent Albanians down to the Caribbean to leave the Greeks alone.*
*Regional Romano-Kyrian cultures pop up during colonization, and the conversion button is grayed out for some reason.*
*Bloody Greek Fire kept pirates from doing too much to migratory fleet.*
*Great Library of Nea Alexandria is envy of the world.*)

Graag brom wrote:(*Hellenists syncretizing with native religions and the Norse in order to have more influence+keep things stable, resulting in an expanded pantheon among at least the outskirts of society.*
*Issue of polygamy is raised early on after the first Hellenic Emperor is crowned, when North American chieftain subject to Elysia presents daughter's hand in marriage as part of a gift to the Emperor.*
*Awkwardly sent Albanians down to the Caribbean to leave the Greeks alone.*
*Regional Romano-Kyrian cultures pop up during colonization, and the conversion button is grayed out for some reason.*
*Bloody Greek Fire kept pirates from doing too much to migratory fleet.*
*Great Library of Nea Alexandria is envy of the world.*)

Given the continued use of interpretatio romana in some form or another, these little syncretisms would be permitted under the Elysian and later Kyrian rule, at least at first until dogmatism becomes more predominant in the fight against Christianity.

Yes, I can imagine that would be an issue, but it could prove... useful to be allowed in certain circumstances or as part of the native Kyro-American culture that would be born from the mixing of Greco-Roman and native, settler cultures.

Hehehe, lol.

Of course regional cultures would come into existence, tolerated by the state but still held to the standards of mos maiorum, which would be standardised or rather easily accessible for use in determining whether something is in accordance with them.

Greek fire is a blessing.

Aye, most definitely. It would be the oldest library in the New World, located either in Avana or in the original colony/capital.

Graag brom and Nu Alaska

*Third Kyro-Ottoman War*
Kyria: "hey Ottomans guess what"
Ottomans: "what"
Kyria "Είστε ήδη νεκρός"
Ottomans: "N E ? !"
*Ottoman Empire has capitulated*

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Nu Alaska

Kyria wrote:Given the continued use of interpretatio romana in some form or another, these little syncretisms would be permitted under the Elysian and later Kyrian rule, at least at first until dogmatism becomes more predominant in the fight against Christianity.

Yes, I can imagine that would be an issue, but it could prove... useful to be allowed in certain circumstances or as part of the native Kyro-American culture that would be born from the mixing of Greco-Roman and native, settler cultures.

Hehehe, lol.

Of course regional cultures would come into existence, tolerated by the state but still held to the standards of mos maiorum, which would be standardised or rather easily accessible for use in determining whether something is in accordance with them.

Greek fire is a blessing.

Aye, most definitely. It would be the oldest library in the New World, located either in Avana or in the original colony/capital.

(*Weird statue of what could be described as 'Quetzalcoatl-Odin-Jupiter' comes out of Varangian Guard's little enclave to decorate Grand Temple in capital, during efforts to beautify the place.*

*Emperor Hiwathonious I Palaiologos ascends to the throne, son of previous Emperor with one of his Iroquois consorts.*

"We need more NAPHTHA!"

Pretty sure Nea Alexandria is in the Elysian Bay a.k.a original colony region.)

Kyria wrote:*Third Kyro-Ottoman War*
Kyria: "hey Ottomans guess what"
Ottomans: "what"
Kyria "Είστε ήδη νεκρός"
Ottomans: "N E ? !"
*Ottoman Empire has capitulated*

(*Proceeds to set up semi-independent Greek Exarchate for everything outside of Constantinopolis, because at this point Kyria/Elysia is seen as home and invading Europe at all was controversial at that point... With local Greeks and certainly the Turks seeing them as foreigners.*)

Kyria and Nu Alaska

Graag brom wrote:(*Weird statue of what could be described as 'Quetzalcoatl-Odin-Jupiter' comes out of Varangian Guard's little enclave to decorate Grand Temple in capital, during efforts to beautify the place.*

*Emperor Hiwathonious I Palaiologos ascends to the throne, son of previous Emperor with one of his Iroquois consorts.*

"We need more NAPHTHA!"

Pretty sure Nea Alexandria is in the Elysian Bay a.k.a original colony region.)
(*Proceeds to set up semi-independent Greek Exarchate for everything outside of Constantinopolis, because at this point Kyria/Elysia is seen as home and invading Europe at all was controversial at that point... With local Greeks and certainly the Turks seeing them as foreigners.*)

It would certainly be an... interesting piece of work. These little cults may end up akin to the sects of Catholicism or something of that sort, if you get what I mean.

A mixed-race Kyro-Roman imperial family would definitely be unique. This may end up with the population as a whole becoming far less European genetically than their Byzantine ancestors at least, if not totally losing their Europeanness in some areas, particularly Aztlan or what may be the equivalent of Spartania.

I imagine Greek fire would continued to be used or some other form of it later down the line, made with materials found in the Americas.

Aye, it would be. I’m not using that playthrough as a whole, but I am taking inspiration and influence from it. I would have to watch more videos of the mod.

Aye, it would never directly annex anything outside of its home territory with the exception of Asian and African colonies. The Jews in Jerusalem and the Athenian Greeks might be going "oh not again" when they see the imperial aquila and vexillum being marched around.

Graag brom and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

I think I’ve gotten a solid idea for Versilia’s religion. I’ve named it Anima Invictus, or "unconquered spirit" in English. Its theology revolves around the idea of a universal energy that gives life to all things. This energy comes from a single, cosmic source at the centre of the universe and can be imagined in the simplest way as an infinitely dense sphere of energy not unlike the sun in appearance. Like dark matter its energy is found in every corner of the universe, in all dimensions, always flowing like river water from the source of said river. Beings take in this energy when they become officially "alive" and this energy goes away upon death, but can return should the body start working again and isn’t decomposed (explaining how people come back to life after events like heart attacks and so on). The energy of a dead being may become the energy of another upon the beginning of life, acting in a way similar to reincarnation.

As this energy flows through all dimensions of existence, there exists beings that could potentially be called deities. These are incorporeal, higher consciousnesses made entirely from this energy that has since become self-aware. They’re limited in their power and ability to influence the plains of existence that border their own. They can and often do go dormant for extended periods of time, even for millennia. Either most or some can communicate telepathically with lesser or corporeal beings, like humans though this is difficult if the person isn’t "attuned" to the energy that they’re made of. There isn’t any supreme god and in general the religion practiced by the adherents of Anima Invictus is closer to being non-theist than theist.

All this energy comes and goes, with the source constantly seeping and absorbing the energy it’s comprised of. This energy is also the source of magic in some dimensions, where it can be used to power divination spells, allow the user to scry, manipulate the material world in the form of telekinesis or the creation of fire, enhance alchemical concoctions, and more. However this comes at the cost that magic users can literally steal the energy from another living being to momentarily power themselves, though thankfully this kind of skill is very difficult and obvious to anything who can see it.

The primary religious organisation that adheres to Anima Invictus is the Versilian state religious organisation, which I aim to take inspiration from the Greco-Roman and Sino-Japanese religious institutions. The Red Maidens from my original lore will be brought back, and there’ll be equivalents to the College of Pontiffs and Vestal Virgins.

Graag brom, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

Minor misspelling, it’s supposed to be invictus, not ”invicta."

Does anyone have any suggestions on how the magic system could work in accordance with what I’ve written thus far? I currently imagine it as people who’re attuned to the energy can focus or channel the energy within themselves to create what one might consider typical magic, albeit potentially at the cost of being exhausted after use or some other temporary consequences. A more practiced and attuned magic user can use more of the energy in spells and for longer periods of time, but there’s a cap for all beings on the amount of power they can use without killing themselves and for how long.

Graag brom, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia wrote:Minor misspelling, it’s supposed to be invictus, not ”invicta."

Does anyone have any suggestions on how the magic system could work in accordance with what I’ve written thus far? I currently imagine it as people who’re attuned to the energy can focus or channel the energy within themselves to create what one might consider typical magic, albeit potentially at the cost of being exhausted after use or some other temporary consequences. A more practiced and attuned magic user can use more of the energy in spells and for longer periods of time, but there’s a cap for all beings on the amount of power they can use without killing themselves and for how long.

(Is the energy use cap per spell, due to bodily limitations, or throughout their lifetime as continued use saps that energy out back into the metaphorical river? If the latter, can they somehow 'replenish' the energy within themselves via external sources? Because from the sound of it every being only gets one amount of energy, that which they're born with that may return or not after death in some cases.)

The islands of versilia

Graag brom wrote:(Is the energy use cap per spell, due to bodily limitations, or throughout their lifetime as continued use saps that energy out back into the metaphorical river? If the latter, can they somehow 'replenish' the energy within themselves via external sources? Because from the sound of it every being only gets one amount of energy, that which they're born with that may return or not after death in some cases.)

I would say, at the moment, it’s per spell. One’s energy can gradually replenish or be revived in a way from ambient energy flow, or from outside sources of said energy. It is due to bodily limitations, as using too much of their energy in a short span of time would kill their mortal body.

However the lifetime cap would be a pretty big balance to the existence of magic as a whole.

Graag brom and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

Ah, I should mention that forms of meditation can help in further attuning someone into the magical energies of the universe and thus is an integral part of magic-user training in many worlds, potentially including Versilia’s.

Wobbegong, Graag brom, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

(Vers is better at writing than me.)

Wobbegong, The islands of versilia, Graag brom, and Elfland

Graag brom

Nu Alaska wrote:(Vers is better at writing than me.)

(More writing is often the solution to this, besides asking for advice anyways, practice makes perfect and all that provided you have the time.)

Wobbegong, The islands of versilia, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

Nu Alaska wrote:(Vers is better at writing than me.)

It’s something you get better at over time or with practice.

Graag brom wrote:(More writing is often the solution to this, besides asking for advice anyways, practice makes perfect and all that provided you have the time.)

^

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

I’ve been discussing stuff with an acquaintance of mine and fellow NationStates user The italian junta, and we began discussing stuff for Versilia. He looked over the religion and found it to be very weak and not exactly a good state religion, and so we began discussing how to strengthen it. We got to the idea of Cain being deified, with the royal family being directly descended from Cain via his firstborn Enoch (whose mother is Lilith), and vampires starting in the Middle East. Cain was exiled to the Land of Nod, where his son founded the city of Enoch (we placed it where modern Baghdad is located), thus making Enoch a holy city. Essentially the Cainite religion rises up in the place of Islam and becomes the Enochid Empire (like the Umayyad Caliphate), under the Enochid dynasty of vampires.

The Cainite religion replaces Islam, venerates Cain and his bloodline, and is often considered a Christian heresy. It’s also structured similarly to the Orthodox faith. The country speaks Arabic with Arabia and Mashriq being known as the Land of Nod, as does the nobility and royalty. Akeldama is a descendant of Enoch, and is the latest ruler of the modern Enochid Empire. I’ll probably have to get someone to edit her appearance to make her look authentically native to the region, so there’s that.

Here’s a map that Esco made: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/675372144636461086/680423541824290903/image0.jpg

Graag brom, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

There was a LOT of biblical mythology and lore being discussed.

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia wrote:-snip right above anyways-

The islands of versilia wrote:There was a LOT of biblical mythology and lore being discussed.

(Nice, definitely getting some Vampire:The Masquerade vibes off it... Albeit can't tell if that's a coincidence or not, given that universe also draws a decent bit from Biblical sources for that part of its lore.)

Wobbegong, The islands of versilia, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

Graag brom wrote:(Nice, definitely getting some Vampire:The Masquerade vibes off it... Albeit can't tell if that's a coincidence or not, given that universe also draws a decent bit from Biblical sources for that part of its lore.)

Esco and I touched a lot on Vampire: The Masquerade, particularly involving the origin of vampires.

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

I will either use the name "Enochid Imbaraturiyya" or something similar NS wise. I’ll need the Arabic translation of "Enochid" before I do, however.

Graag brom, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

The italian junta

Using Enochid as the dynasty name wont require a translation and you can freely refer to your nation as the Enochid Empire rather than translating it.

Graag brom, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

The italian junta wrote:Using Enochid as the dynasty name wont require a translation and you can freely refer to your nation as the Enochid Empire rather than translating it.

Unfortunately Arabic can’t transliterate Es. From what I can see, in native Arabic, the dynasty names don’t end in "-id" but rather "-iyy", or something like that.

Graag brom, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia

so uh
tanned Akel

Wobbegong, Graag brom, Elfland, and Nu Alaska

The islands of versilia wrote:so uh
tanned Akel

(Of course this is what it was leading up to.)

Wobbegong, The islands of versilia, and Graag brom

The islands of versilia

Nu Alaska wrote:(Of course this is what it was leading up to.)

It’s an unintentional byproduct I swears it

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Nu Alaska

Graag brom and Nu Alaska

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