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Nhoor wrote:To become active here on the map, being a member of the WA is kind of required, although you are free to ignore it as much as you like (I generally delete WA telegrams without reading them and just vote against all WA proposals).

But like I said before, I dont know if it is possible in my case.

Rhenvaar wrote:But like I said before, I dont know if it is possible in my case.

Ah, now I understand your previous comment. I'm not sure how that works in fact; I guess alarm bells would only start to ring (if at all) if you would both be very active and influential and try to gain control of the WA or something like that. I don't know about the other nation but as far as I can see, you are still fairly new here so there wouldn't be an imminent danger of that happening.

But perhaps others here can shed more light on this?

New aapelistan

Rhenvaar wrote:Peoples democratic union, that sounds left wing?

Definately not

New aapelistan

Nhoor wrote:To become active here on the map, being a member of the WA is kind of required, although you are free to ignore it as much as you like (I generally delete WA telegrams without reading them and just vote against all WA proposals).

It isn't really required under any rules as far as I remember. Hasn't been required during the last years atleast.

I am not a member of the WA for example

Nhoor wrote:Ah, now I understand your previous comment. I'm not sure how that works in fact; I guess alarm bells would only start to ring (if at all) if you would both be very active and influential and try to gain control of the WA or something like that. I don't know about the other nation but as far as I can see, you are still fairly new here so there wouldn't be an imminent danger of that happening.

But perhaps others here can shed more light on this?

Should I perhaps ask the Mods in a forum post? I let them have the WA because I dont really care for the membership myself.

New aapelistan wrote:Definately not

Okay good... but why the heavy answer? Do you hate left wing politics?

New aapelistan wrote:It isn't really required under any rules as far as I remember. Hasn't been required during the last years atleast.

I am not a member of the WA for example

Okay I hope so... cool cool.

New aapelistan wrote:It isn't really required under any rules as far as I remember. Hasn't been required during the last years atleast.

I am not a member of the WA for example

Well, it is required according to this:

Map Rules

The map is key to developing relationships between our nations and engaging in role-play. As it has limited space, it is therefore reserved for nations who actively engage in RP and new nations (who have a fair probability of engaging in RP in the future). Please do not request a map spot unless you plan on being active for a long time.

For new nations in the region, you must do ALL of the following to receive a map spot:

1. Have a realistic nation name and use that name to role-play with. Do not use the name of a real-life country or something extremely similar to it.
2. Have at least one factbook about your nation that proves you are going to actively engage and develop your nation in-character.
3. Post at least once anywhere on the NationStates forums. This means anywhere across the site where you are allowed to post. However, avoid posting in threads that TWI has made that are marked (IC). These are for those already on the map only.
3. Have been active. For example, if you send us the request on Monday, stop logging in after Tuesday, and we check the request on Saturday, we will not add you, because it appears you are no longer active.
4. The nation which you apply to join the map with should be a member of the World Assembly.
5. Send Ainslie a telegram that answers the following questions:

Standard Application for Map Spot

  • Nation name:

  • How did you find the region/why did you choose The Western Isles:

  • How long have you been active on NationStates:

  • Is this nation a puppet or side project:

  • If you have ANY other accounts on nationstates.net other than this one, please list them here:

  • Do you plan on being active (participating in regional role-play)? Are there any particular interests you have?

  • Have you read and understood our introductory dispatch, "A Welcome and Introduction Dispatch for New Nations":

  • Have you read, understood, and agree to the map rules located in the regional rules dispatch:

  • Where exactly do you want to be on the map (describe the location in relation to other nations' locations):

  • If that spot becomes no longer available, what is your second choice for location:



In order to stay on the map, you must post on any regional in-character role-play thread at least once a month AND you must also do at least one of the following every ten days or less:

1. Publish or significantly and clearly add to a factbook or dispatch about your nation.
2. Post on any regional role-play thread (including but not limited to the news, tweets, citizens, or League threads).


If you're going to be on an extended vacation or unavoidable absence, telegram the current Secretary of Role-Play (Roendavar), Aizcona and Ainslie and they will likely hold your spot for you if you have shown in the past to be an active member.

No puppets. No nation on the map may serve in any capacity in any foreign region's government.

All players must use a single nation name for all of the region's affairs. Creating and using a new nation to RP as a territory or province is heavily discouraged.

See also additional rules for specific instances: page=dispatch/id=426501

In General

1. Treat others how you want to be treated.
2. Be friendly, welcoming, and supportive of everyone, but more so to the new nations of the region.
3. Don't sabotage, harass, or annoy anyone, in the region or elsewhere.
4. Don't engage in one-sided role-playing, for example by invading a nation that does not want to be invaded.
5. Keep your military strength conservatively realistic.
6. Everyone is equal! Elitism isn't welcome here.
7. Alts/puppet accounts cannot vote. If caught voting, you face expulsion from the region.
8. Follow the NationStates rules.

RMB Rules

The RMB is used for:

1. Communicating with the region as a whole, for announcements either on personal matters or about your nation.
2. Welcoming new nations.
3. General conversation about news or other non-controversial topics.
4. Advice on national issues.
5. Help on anything concerning NationStates itself.
6. Campaigning, once an election poll has gone up.
7. Advertising a regional news article or paper, only once per 12 hours.

The RMB is NOT used for:

1. One-on-one conversations. These should occur through telegram.
2. Role-playing events. These will occur in threads on the NationStates forums that will be linked to on the regional world factbook entry. This is so they do not get lost in a sea of other messages on the regional message board.
3. Controversial discussion. These should occur in public threads on the forums.
4. Spam, inside jokes, troll language, memes, etc. Each message should be at least a full sentence and be either helpful, informative, or evoke conversation.
5. Non-English conversation. Use English.
6. Incredibly long posts, particularly those copy-pasted from something else.

Telegram Rules

1. No regional telegrams can be sent out by non-officers, for any reason, including to campaign
2. Officers can only send out regional telegrams if absolutely necessary, such as in order to conduct their duties or conduct elections
3. Residents may, of course, still telegram any other resident privately for any reason, including to campaign

Breaking the Rules

Upon violating the rules, the following events are likely to happen:

1. Suppression of RMB posts
2. Telegram/post asking to stop
3. Kick from the region
4. Ban from the region

These events may occur in a different order depending on the severity of the offense(s). The telegram/post may come from any nation; if someone warns you that you are breaking the rules, that counts as a warning.


Read dispatch

New aapelistan

Rhenvaar wrote:Okay good... but why the heavy answer? Do you hate left wing politics?

Not a heavy answer or anything, just me being me, as Aprosia is in a sence very left wing country.

And no, I don't hate left wing politics. Otherwise my home country of Finland would be a rather bad place for me to live

New aapelistan

Nhoor wrote:Well, it is required according to this:

Map Rules

The map is key to developing relationships between our nations and engaging in role-play. As it has limited space, it is therefore reserved for nations who actively engage in RP and new nations (who have a fair probability of engaging in RP in the future). Please do not request a map spot unless you plan on being active for a long time.

For new nations in the region, you must do ALL of the following to receive a map spot:

1. Have a realistic nation name and use that name to role-play with. Do not use the name of a real-life country or something extremely similar to it.
2. Have at least one factbook about your nation that proves you are going to actively engage and develop your nation in-character.
3. Post at least once anywhere on the NationStates forums. This means anywhere across the site where you are allowed to post. However, avoid posting in threads that TWI has made that are marked (IC). These are for those already on the map only.
3. Have been active. For example, if you send us the request on Monday, stop logging in after Tuesday, and we check the request on Saturday, we will not add you, because it appears you are no longer active.
4. The nation which you apply to join the map with should be a member of the World Assembly.
5. Send Ainslie a telegram that answers the following questions:

Standard Application for Map Spot

  • Nation name:

  • How did you find the region/why did you choose The Western Isles:

  • How long have you been active on NationStates:

  • Is this nation a puppet or side project:

  • If you have ANY other accounts on nationstates.net other than this one, please list them here:

  • Do you plan on being active (participating in regional role-play)? Are there any particular interests you have?

  • Have you read and understood our introductory dispatch, "A Welcome and Introduction Dispatch for New Nations":

  • Have you read, understood, and agree to the map rules located in the regional rules dispatch:

  • Where exactly do you want to be on the map (describe the location in relation to other nations' locations):

  • If that spot becomes no longer available, what is your second choice for location:



In order to stay on the map, you must post on any regional in-character role-play thread at least once a month AND you must also do at least one of the following every ten days or less:

1. Publish or significantly and clearly add to a factbook or dispatch about your nation.
2. Post on any regional role-play thread (including but not limited to the news, tweets, citizens, or League threads).


If you're going to be on an extended vacation or unavoidable absence, telegram the current Secretary of Role-Play (Roendavar), Aizcona and Ainslie and they will likely hold your spot for you if you have shown in the past to be an active member.

No puppets. No nation on the map may serve in any capacity in any foreign region's government.

All players must use a single nation name for all of the region's affairs. Creating and using a new nation to RP as a territory or province is heavily discouraged.

See also additional rules for specific instances: page=dispatch/id=426501

In General

1. Treat others how you want to be treated.
2. Be friendly, welcoming, and supportive of everyone, but more so to the new nations of the region.
3. Don't sabotage, harass, or annoy anyone, in the region or elsewhere.
4. Don't engage in one-sided role-playing, for example by invading a nation that does not want to be invaded.
5. Keep your military strength conservatively realistic.
6. Everyone is equal! Elitism isn't welcome here.
7. Alts/puppet accounts cannot vote. If caught voting, you face expulsion from the region.
8. Follow the NationStates rules.

RMB Rules

The RMB is used for:

1. Communicating with the region as a whole, for announcements either on personal matters or about your nation.
2. Welcoming new nations.
3. General conversation about news or other non-controversial topics.
4. Advice on national issues.
5. Help on anything concerning NationStates itself.
6. Campaigning, once an election poll has gone up.
7. Advertising a regional news article or paper, only once per 12 hours.

The RMB is NOT used for:

1. One-on-one conversations. These should occur through telegram.
2. Role-playing events. These will occur in threads on the NationStates forums that will be linked to on the regional world factbook entry. This is so they do not get lost in a sea of other messages on the regional message board.
3. Controversial discussion. These should occur in public threads on the forums.
4. Spam, inside jokes, troll language, memes, etc. Each message should be at least a full sentence and be either helpful, informative, or evoke conversation.
5. Non-English conversation. Use English.
6. Incredibly long posts, particularly those copy-pasted from something else.

Telegram Rules

1. No regional telegrams can be sent out by non-officers, for any reason, including to campaign
2. Officers can only send out regional telegrams if absolutely necessary, such as in order to conduct their duties or conduct elections
3. Residents may, of course, still telegram any other resident privately for any reason, including to campaign

Breaking the Rules

Upon violating the rules, the following events are likely to happen:

1. Suppression of RMB posts
2. Telegram/post asking to stop
3. Kick from the region
4. Ban from the region

These events may occur in a different order depending on the severity of the offense(s). The telegram/post may come from any nation; if someone warns you that you are breaking the rules, that counts as a warning.


Read dispatch

Well that has changed at some point. And as you can see, not in the WA.

Only useless notifications and TGs and pretty much only useful for preventing puppets

New aapelistan wrote:Well that has changed at some point. And as you can see, not in the WA.

Only useless notifications and TGs and pretty much only useful for preventing puppets

Well, obviously it hasn't changed, as these are still the official rules you should read before applying for a spot on the map.

Another purpose of being in the WA is to be able to endorse the government so that they have enough influence to defend the region in case of a raid; e.g. banning nations costs influence.
But for the rest I agree that the notifications and telegrams are annoying (but as said, I just ignore them).

New aapelistan

Nhoor wrote:Well, obviously it hasn't changed, as these are still the official rules you should read before applying for a spot on the map.

Another purpose of being in the WA is to be able to endorse the government so that they have enough influence to defend the region in case of a raid; e.g. banning nations costs influence.
But for the rest I agree that the notifications and telegrams are annoying (but as said, I just ignore them).

The fact that banning nations costs influence is kind of dumb in my opinion, but that's raiding to you. Although our WA delegate is non-executive

The confusion levels are high now....

I will stay out for now and focus on world building for my nation. Hopefully it will be well liked and something unique. I do have some sort of rough idea.

Ioudaia, Nhoor, and Visois

Rhenvaar wrote:The confusion levels are high now....

I will stay out for now and focus on world building for my nation. Hopefully it will be well liked and something unique. I do have some sort of rough idea.

If you have a geniune reason for not being able to be in the WA, then let Vanc (the founder) know. As a non-bias mediator of this affair, I'd suggest just speaking with the founder about it and hopefully you'll find some form of conclusion. :)

I’m running out of ideas for my factbooks

Visois wrote:I’m running out of ideas for my factbooks

Other themes you could describe could be the education system, social arrangements (what happens if you are ill, pregnant, jobless, homeless, old...; are there pensions, insurance systems), the police, media (tv channels, newspapers, overviews of how many people are connected to and (know how to) use internet etc), telephone numbers and zip-codes, favorite passtime, favorite holiday destinations, identification (ID cards, passports), legal systems (legal age to be allowed to do something, things that are banned...), to name a few ideas :)

Ioudaia, Remodio, and Visois

Boston is removing a statue of Abraham Lincoln freeing a slave.... because reasons. I'm honestly done with society.... this is peak clown-world.

Segentova wrote:Boston is removing a statue of Abraham Lincoln freeing a slave.... because reasons. I'm honestly done with society.... this is peak clown-world.

Statues are easy targets because they won't fight back.

Segentova and Serpens land

Segentova wrote:Boston is removing a statue of Abraham Lincoln freeing a slave.... because reasons. I'm honestly done with society.... this is peak clown-world.

Because people don’t know history. They just see a statue of a white man and assume it’s racist

Visois wrote:Because people don’t know history. They just see a statue of a white man and assume it’s racist

It's Honest ABE LINCOLN, damnit! How can they not?!

Segentova wrote:It's Honest ABE LINCOLN, damnit! How can they not?!

They didn’t bother to read the plaque? Lmao it even says Emancipation on it. It’s literally spelled out in front of them

Visois wrote:They didn’t bother to read the plaque? Lmao it even says Emancipation on it. It’s literally spelled out in front of them

Have you read the story? It's not protesters.... it's the local government! They VOTED on this.

Segentova wrote:Have you read the story? It's not protesters.... it's the local government! They VOTED on this.

Oh

That changes a lot of things and now I’m even more disappointed

I have recognized on occasions in the past that someone doesn't want to mess with their stats from WA, so have allowed them to have a puppet WA nation that they move into the region and claim

Nhoor and Serpens land

Visois wrote:Because people don’t know history. They just see a statue of a white man and assume it’s racist

Segentova wrote:It's Honest ABE LINCOLN, damnit! How can they not?!

Have you ever read the so called Emancipation Proclamation? He granted freedom to those areas still under Confederate control, he reaffirmed and enforced slavery in the USA and those parts of the South under Union control. The worst thing to happen to the South after defeat was his death.

I love the smell of southern apologists in the morning

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53297864

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