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Yes I'm Dutch. I just wanted to see a bit of papiaments on the RMB, a breath of fresh air from seeing Danish and German (and English)
Libertandonien, Eco-Paris Reformation, Renway, and Anglo-francios
New project for whomever: Create a conlang for the RMB
Yahlia, Rivierenland, Libertandonien, Eco-Paris Reformation, and 2 othersNew skandenivia, and Renway
well english is the base language of NS so ... xD
The Royal House of Chaves (in Portuguese: Casa Real de Chaves), also known as the Flavian Dynasty, is a European imperial and royal dynasty with Luso-British origins. It was founded in 1861, by princess Victoria, who turned out to be a descendant of George II of Great Britain.
It was in 1750 when the British Royal Family had (technically) died, and the Luso-British Union had been created to replace the power that once rule the British Isles.
This union manage to survived Europe's then darkest times, when Napoleon Bonaparte invaded all Europe for conquest. It was in 1861, when the then King Pedro V gave permission to Victoria, the then discovered heir of George II, to create her own royal house. As the royal family lived in a Portuguese town called Chaves, she decided that her house should be named after the town, and ended up with the name "Royal House of Chaves".
This royal house eventually came to power in 1934. D. Manuel II died childless, which left the throne empty. With a regency establish by the late King's Mother, a new monarch had to be found. This only happen in 1934, with a offer to George, Duke of Chaves. We accepted and in 1934, he became King George III of the Luso-British Union. The Union almost reach 200 years when in 1948 it became the Imperial Federation with King George IV. But in 2022, after the death of Empress Elizabeth II, it became the Commonwealth of Nations.
One of the milestones of the Royal House was when Empress Elizabeth II made headlines with its Platinum Jubilee, and for having the longest reigning of 74 years, surpassing the reign of Louis XIV of France.
Now her second born is the new Empress, Empress Cristiana, since his first born, the then Prince Jorge, abdicated the rights to heir the throne and became King of Brazil, though his children became kings and queens in other parts of the Commonwealth.
When Portugal, Britain and Austria won the War of the Spanish Succession (1700 - 1714), France came out of a war that could have been a victory for the House of Bourbon, but Britain had its problems too.
Just after the war, in 1716, the British made an agreement with Portugal that if anything should happen, the Portuguese Royal House would have a claim to the British Throne, making a union of the crowns. This would eventually happen in 1749, when George II died "without" heirs to the throne. The British Parliament contacted the Portuguese Monarch and Parliament to make a new act of union.
The Luso-British Union was created on January 1st, 1750 with King John V of Portugal becaming the first monarch. The House of Braganza became more powerfull in one night, uniting two colossal empires. What Spain tried to do by force in 1589, Portugal did via diplomatic and gain the British Isles and Ireland.
Many new politicians enter Portugal to now make laws and discuss with their Portuguese counter-parts in the new parliament, now seated in Lisbon. Though 5 years later, in 1755, the parliament was relocated to Coimbra due to the Lisbon Earthquake on November 1st. But life continue, with the Seven Years War and a lost in the first major war for the brand new Union.
But the Union saw a new change in the win, when Napoleon Bonaparte started his wars in Europe. The Bourbons managed to escape to the Austrian Neatherlands, where then fled to Vienna, and the Braganzas, the Parliament and 15.000 people had to fled either to Brazil or North America. The Braganzas fled to Brazil and the Parliament fled to Boston where they were now the seat of the government.
Though the Union couldn't defeat Napoleon in mainland Europe aside from Portugal, they manage to conquer Louisiana in the west of North America. And so, after a long exile, the Parliament return to Lisbon while the Royal Family return, but not after making state visits in its holdings in the Atlantic. Spain was starting to lose its Empire in America after the invasion by Napoleon, while the Braganzas manage to hold North America and Brazil with representation in the Royal Parliament. This would lead to the to the Slavery War (1848 - 1852) when the abolition was been presented, and in here we saw brutal combat in Brasil and in the Southern States of Columbia, and in this war a lady show valour when she set up medical supplies to the soldiers, Lady Victoria.
Longest-Reigning Monarch of the
Imperial Federation and the World
(1948 - 2022)
It was then, in the year of 1861, that something change. King Pedro V reach to Lady Victoria, who later on discovered the she was the decendent of George II of Great Britain, told her that for the valour that she demonstrated during the war, she could create a new royal house. She then created the now “Royal House of Chaves”, or simply known as the Flavian Dynasty, and by the following years, the house would become powerfull. Most of their members fought in the wars of conquest around the Union and most of them chined in the wars, by receiving medals, and also by making new discoveries. By the year of 1910, during the Ten Years War (1901 - 1911), two years after the death King Carlos I, King Manuel II suffered a coup. The republicans staarted a coup in Lisbon on the morning of the 4th of October, but the men that fought with the members of the Royal House of Chaves decided to support the monarchy and General Paiva Couceiro in Lisbon, and by the morning of the 6th, the coup had failed, and they received more merits for their services.
1932. The King, Manuel II, though married, had no children, needed to continue the legacy of the Union, but did not manage to find someone to replace him and then it was to late. The King died July 2nd, 1932, and a Regency was establish under the late King's Mother. The search for an heir last almost two years, but on June 3rd, 1934, a successor was found on the Royal House of Chaves. Prince Jorge accepted the throne and on June 3rd, 1934, became George III of the Luso-British Union. His reign was short, and it was follow up by his son, who was crown King George IV. His reign saw a massive change around the Union, and towards the end of his reign, the Imperial Federation came to life and he became Emperor, though he abdicated later that year to her eldest daughter, Princess Elizabeth.
- Princess Elizabeth, Cape Town, 21st April 1947
When she said that a year before her father's abdication, she didn't think that she would take the throne so soon, but her husband, Prince Philip (1921 - 2021), support her in this difficult time. And so, in 1949, almost a year after the abdication of her father, she was crown in Lisbon as the new monarch, Empress Elizabeth II. Her first years were not calm, since in 1952, her father died in Rio de Janeiro and a state funeral was to be made in Rio, Lisbon and then ins Chaves; in 1953 her grandmother, Queen Mary, died in London and was buried there but after that, her reign started to go calm and she became popular. Between 1974 and 1975 she was force to intervine in Portugal during a Crisis that started there on the 23rd April, 1974; she had to cancel her state visit to South Africa in 1976 due to the South African War (1976 - 1988), involving Angola, Mozambique, Rhodesia, South Africa and Transvaal against syndicalist nations in Southern Africa; the controversial government of Margaret Thatcher (1979 - 1997) and then the fire in Windsor Castle in 1998.
Her first-born child, Jorge, became the King of Brazil in 1986 and her second-born child, the now Empress Cristiana I, become the heir to the throne. Princess Amélia became Empress of Mexico in 2016; Princess Teresa became Queen of the Hellenic Kindom in 1986, though under a regency due to her minority and Princess Margarida became Queen of the Two Sicilies in 2000.
The XXI Century started with new technology and new dangers not only to the monarchy, but to the world, but Empress Elizabeth II surprass all of that, but losing her mother and sister in the same year, in 2002. She celebrated her Platinum Jubilee in 2018, marking 70 years of reign and then in 2022 a Second Diamond Jubilee marking 74 years. Though, in 2021, after 73 years of marriage, Prince Philip died two months before making 100 years, marking a decline on the Empress's health. On September 8th, 2022, after 74 years of reign, the Empress died with 96 years. Her daughter succeded her and less than a month later, the Commonwealth of Nations was created.
Speaking of ways of transport, the imperial family controls fourteen yachts: the HMIY Resolute, the HMIY Nyara, the HMIY Naomi, the HMIY Nexus, the HMIY Sarai, the HMIY Pandora, the HMIY Rayla, the HMIY Phoenix, the HMIY Samantha, the HMIY Milena, the HMIY Cassandra, the HMIY Chloé, the HMIY Bella and the HMIY Noah. The imperial family takes care of all four, as it is the imperial family that regularly uses them for travel. Of course, they can also lend them to the government when it needs them, but they are still part of the imperial family's furniture.
the Imperial Yacht
the Imperial Yacht
Each imperial yacht has their captain, been in total 8 captains: 4 men and 4 women. The captains must have serviced either in the Imperial Navy or in the Merchant Navy, but they still have a special class to prepare themselves for what is to come with their new vessels. Since these were ocean liners, most are familiar how one works, but now these were rebuilt, and their machinery was replaced with new one. And they would not carrying normal passengers, but members of the Imperial Family.
Their uniform is all white, except for the shirt, which is black because of the white tie. Most of them have medals, for their deeds during crisis, like the Irish Syndicalist Rebellion or the attacks on Commonwealth ships in the Indian Ocean. They are not appointed by the government, but by the monarch, since its mostly the Imperial Family that uses these yachts.
Inside, they show a splendour that newer ocean liners don’t have. The Room of Louis XIV, which is located on HMIY Nexus, is an example of it. It represents a style that once existed in the beginning of the 20th Century, and it was very popular on ocean liners, but now they have new styles, so the monarch decided to recreate that room inside Nexus.
The ships were heavily modified to fit the standards of the Imperial Family, as well of their crewmen and members of the government, when they use the ships. New engines were put in place to replace the old ones, new ventilation system, etc. People can see these former ocean liners almost around the world since they are constantly on the move. Whenever there is a crisis, the HMIY Pandora is put into service for the Monarch and the Government as an escape plan and strategy plan, in case the capital is threaten or any city that the monarch is currently in.
The yachts attract many people when they are in dock, and they are permitted to visit during a time, before the ships departure, since they would only stop for refuelling or for the night because of the weather..
The Imperial Yachts:
Name | Built | Building Place | Entered Service | Captain |
HMIY Resolute | Originally built: April 21st, 1913 | Harland and Wolff, Belfast, Kingdom of Ireland | October 5th, 2018 | Captain Américo Rodrigues |
HMIY Nyara | Originally Built: May 31st, 1911 | Harland and Wolff, Belfast, Kingdom of Ireland | May 5th, 2019 | Captain Amélia Mota |
HMIY Naomi | Originally Built: February 1st, 1912 | Harland and Wolff, Belfast, Kingdom of Ireland | July 7th, 2019 | Captain Richard Jackson |
HMIY Nexus | Originally Built: October 11th, 1913 | John Brown & Co, Clydebank, United Kingdoms of Portugal and Great Britain | January 1st, 2020 | Captain Mia Dawson |
HMIY Resolute | HMIY Nyara | HMIY Naomi | HMIY Nexus |
Name | Built | Building Place | Entered Service | Captain |
HMIY Sarai | Originally built: April 21st, 1913 | Harland and Wolff, Belfast, Kingdom of Ireland | October 10th, 2020 | Captain António Albuquerque |
HMIY Pandora | Originally Built: September 20th, 1906 | Swan Hunter, Northumberland, United Kingdoms of Portugal and Great Britain | April 8th, 2021 | Captain Carolina dos Ramos Albertina |
HMIY Rayla | Originally Built: June 7th, 1906 | John Brown & Co, Clydebank, United Kingdoms of Portugal and Great Britain | August 18th, 2021 | Captain Albert Reagen |
HMIY Phoenix | Originally Built: October 11th, 1913 | Harland and Wolff, Belfast, Kingdom of Ireland | March 1st, 2022 | Captain Rose Carter |
HMIY Sarai | HMIY Pandora | HMIY Rayla | HMIY Phoenix |
Name | Built | Building Place | Entered Service | Captain |
HMIY Cassandra | Built: April 21st, 2000 | Blohm & Voss Shipyards, Hamburg, Principality of Hamburg | October 10th, 2003 | Captain Anthony Eden Jr. |
HMIY Samantha | Built: September 20th, 2019 | F. Schichau, Danzig, Kingdom of Prussia | April 8th, 2021 | Captain Catarina dos Reis |
HMIY Milena | Built: November 7th, 2019 | F. Schichau, Danzig, Kingdom of Prussia | August 18th, 2021 | Captain Shawn Streep |
HMIY Chloé | Built: October 11th, 2020 | AG Vulcan, Stettin, Kingdom of Prussia | March 1st, 2022 | Captain Mindy Shakespear |
HMIY Cassandra | HMIY Samantha | HMIY Milena | HMIY Chloé |
Name | Built | Building Place | Entered Service | Captain |
HMIY Bella | Built: April 21st, 2020 | Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Co, New York, Kingdom of Arcadia | January 10th, 2023 | Captain Alberto Ricardo Reis |
HMIY Noah | Built: October 11th, 2020 | Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Co, New York, Kingdom of Arcadia | March 1st, 2023 | Captain Mary Brosnan |
HMIY Bella | HMIY Noah |
But of course, the imperial family doesn't only travel by ship. To get around wherever they go, they always have two means of transport: one is the train, in case they want to go from one city to another, or in case of Africa and North America, from one kingdom to the other; another means to get around in the city is the Rolls-Royce car.
“Take the best that exists and make it better. When it does not exist, design it.”
Sir Henry Royce
The words of one of the founders of the car company are demonstrated in this beautiful car that you see here: the Rolls-Royce 103EX.
This car is the first ever vision vehicle, and embodies just one of the endless possibilities that awaits. A personalised icon for the future, providing a sanctuary of calm in an ever-faster world. The pinnacle of effortless autonomous travel, this new and autonomous car takes all members of the imperial family to anywhere.
The use of this automobile, as well as the ships, shows that the imperial family uses nationally manufactured transport, demonstrating confidence in national products and encouraging people to use these products.
With the future getting closer and closer, the imperial family shows that they don't have to be afraid, but adapt to the future, which will be full of technologies, like the Rolls-Royce, as well as the old ships, which received an enormous overall to continue sailing after more than a century of sailing.
Now, aside of the ocean liners that are now imperial yachts, the Royal House has many residentials around the nation, but mostly in Europe and in the Americas. The house manages and controls these houses, and often they are open for tourists.
The houses are a symbol of the monarchy since they represent luxury and the best of a nation, since materials and furniture that are part of the house came from all over the nation. One of those houses is the Royal Palace of Pena, in Sintra, Portugal.
Name | Built | Location | Adquire |
Buckingham Palace | 1703 | London, United Kingdom of Portugal and Great Britain | 1900 |
Sandringham Estate | 1892 | Sandringham, Norfolk, United Kingdoms of Portugal and Great Britain | 1899 |
Windsor Castle | 11th century | Windsor, Berkshire, United Kingdoms of Portugal and Great Britain | 1900 |
Balmoral Castle | 1390 | Aberdeenshire, Scotland, United Kingdoms of Portugal and Great Britain | 1934 |
Buckingham Palace | Sandringham Estate | Windsor Castle | Balmoral Castle |
Name | Built | Location | Adquire |
Royal Pena Palace | 1854 | Sintra, United Kingdoms of Portugal and Great Britain | 1934 |
Palace of Mafra | 1717 | Mafra, United Kingdoms of Portugal and Great Britain | 1943 |
Royal Palace of Petropolis | 1845 | Kingdom of Brazil | 1920 |
Rideau Hall | 1817 | Ottawa, Imperial Capital City | 1954 |
Royal Pena Palace | Palace of Mafra | Royal Palace of Petropolis | Rideau Hall |
Special Thanks:
Thanks to The Democratic Socialist Union of The New Nordic Union for the Coat of Arms of the Royal House.
Thanks to The United Republics, Duchies and Kingdoms of the Empire of Eritei for the Male and Female Yacht Captains Clothes.
References:
Photos taken by: The Commonwealth of Nations of NorthPortugal
Models made by: Alex Beaut Line
Game used: Virtual Sailor NG
T H EC O M M O N W E A L T HO FN A T I O N S
Well, this is the last update.
I had to have a royal standard, so I created one, and it is now on a pole, literally.
I hope you like it,
The Imperial Federation of NorthPortugal
Rivierenland and Renway
how do you make coa’s like that. Your talented
Well, the CoA was made by The New Nordic Union.
The Royal Standard was made by me
UwU
It's out! I really enjoyed moderating this debate.
March 2021
The European Home Office brings you the full transcripts of the European Electoral Debate, held on the 21st of March at 5pm GMT+0 on the #comm-debates channel on Eurocord between Anskerdank, Libertandonien, Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, Rivierenland, and Walfo. The transcript was edited removing discord's quotes and tags in order to facilitate the reading.
The moderator's name is highlighted in orange, while the candidates' names are highlighted in blue. Questions are highlighted in italic. Editor's notes are enclosed between []. Naughty words are censored if present. Walfo was not present in person at the time of the debate and answered the questions only afterwards and on an unofficial occasion; to give everyone a fair representation, his answers were included at the end of this transcript. The questions posed by the moderator in the first round were prepared by the whole Home Office staff.
Gor Kebab: Hello everyone and welcome to today's debate! Our candidates today are Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, Rivierenland, Anskerdank, Walfo, and Libertandonien. Best of lucks with your campaign and with today's questions. I, Gor Kebab, am the moderator of this debate. I will allow the candidates to make an opening statement, then we will be jumping on to the questions prepared by the Home Office and then opening up the questions to the public. If you have any questions for the candidates, please put them in #commission and tell us who you are addressing the question to. Are all our candidates present today?
[MEE6, a Discord Moderation Bot, warns Gor Kebab for mass mention]
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: What the-
Rivierenland: G'day lads!
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: smh civil enforcer got it wrong
Anskerdank: Hello everyone, I am very pleased to be here.
Gor Kebab: Walfo and Libertandonien please confirm that you are present
Libertandonien: OwO
I'm here
Gor Kebab: we will wait a few minutes for Walfo. But if he isn't here, we will jump straight into the questions. However, you may begin with your opening statements if you have any
Rivierenland: I don't have one
Libertandonien: Hello everyone, I hope you got a nice day :)
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Nice debate you got there... Would be a real shame if someone...
Didn't say hello...
Anskerdank: I would like to start by wishing the best of luck to all candidates; with this current line up it will certainly be a very interesting line up. I would also like to wish those viewing a happy Sunday.
Rivierenland: Good luck to you too Ansker
Libertandonien: Same
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: I have no quarrels with any of you
Gor Kebab: Okay, it is 5pm GMT and still no sign of Walfo. We will get started with the questions.
Rivierenland: Let's roll!
Gor Kebab: (to everyone) The Moderation Committee recently issued a few orders, punishing who was engaging with spammers and who was expressing apology for extreme ideologies, that sparked some debate. What’s your opinion on these orders?
Rivierenland: I’m a member of modcomm so i won’t be giving any comment to this question
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire:It seems people reacted approvingly to these orders, so I guess they're fine
The people wanted it, and they got it
Libertandonien: Those Orders are absolutely justified
Europe's got a massive problem with spammers and those who interacted with them. And People who excuse fascist ideologies shall never be tolerated on the RMB
Anskerdank: I'm going to be straight to the point here. Although there are several who I am friendly with which were punished, I must say I agreed, and still agree, to all punishments given by those orders. Spamming and spreading tolerance of hateful ideologies should not and will not be tolerated.
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: People who excuse extremist ideologies at all are not ok
Gor Kebab: Interesting take from all of you, but generally the same thing. You all agree with the decisions made. correct?
Rivierenland: Yes
Anskerdank: I do.
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Well it was the will of the people, so of course.
Libertandonien: It seems so
Gor Kebab: everyone happy to move on or any more comments about the question?
Rivierenland: Let’s move
Libertandonien: Yes
Gor Kebab: (to everyone) What’s your take on the free speech for fascism argument and how do you plan to deal with it responsibly?
Rivierenland: If a person is extreme in their beliefs then i will make sure that they won’t stay in Europe for too long. Are they moderate in their beliefs, then I shall only notify the person(s) in question to the higher-ups to keep an eye on them.
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: If they merely label themselves as extremist, then I don't think they should be censored. If, however, they truly espouse extreme beliefs, then we have a problem.
Libertandonien: People of any extreme ideology should not be allowed to express their extreme opinions in Europe
Anskerdank:I believe that those who do hold those views should not be sharing them in a public space. There are many people, myself included, who have had family affected by fascism, so if you're going to argue it, and there should be no reason to be for or tolerate of it, at the very least do it in telegrams so only those who wish to be involved are involved.
Gor Kebab: SICE, so you are saying that people are allowed to have extreme views in Europe, as long as they don't express it?
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Yes. If they aren't causing trouble with their extreme beliefs (i.e they aren't putting "death to all jews" or something like that) on the RMB, then it wouldn't matter. The rules of NationStates are with me on this one.
Gor Kebab: and Riv, can you elaborate on the actions you will take to 'make sure that they won't stay in Europe for too long'?
Rivierenland: I'll do what i usually do and report them to modcomm and lobby for a ban for the person(s) in question
That is my elaboration
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: [to Riv] So would you be for the banning of Saiwania?
Rivierenland: I don't know who that is
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: He's a fascist apologist who resides in our region (at least as far as I can tell from his forum posts).
Rivierenland: Well, thank you for informing me on this, i'll table this case to modcomm right now
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: I could sift through his forum posts to get you evidence of that
Gor Kebab: Any additional comments on the matter?
Rivierenland: [To SICE]Thank you, that would help me with the matter in modcomm
Gor Kebab: Okay, if you two can continue the Saiwania issue in another channel, that'll be great. For now, we shall move onto the next question
Rivierenland: Alright then
Gor Kebab:(to everyone) What is your stance on the debate between who argues in favour of double-standards on regulars and newcomers, thinking they are natural and necessary, and who argues against, thinking they are deprecable and unfair?
Rivierenland: No comment
Libertandonien: Everyone should be treated equally in regards of spam. Only because they have a bigger population, it doesnt mean that they're above the law, including me.
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: All I can say is that we should have equality before the law
Anskerdank: I strongly believe that they are unfair; there has been multiple times where I have wished to report people who are considered elite and, through peer pressure, I have not done so. By this point the evidence is outdated and near useless. This allows the "elites" to escape justice. If you consider yourself an elite for whatever reason, please reconsider; there are few true elites in Europe and none of them should escape justice because of status.
Gor Kebab: [To Anskerdank] So you believe double standards is a problem in Europe?
Anskerdank: I do.
Gor Kebab: What do you reckon needs to be done to prevent double standards remaining an issue?
Libertandonien: Don't be feared to report people. Modcomm won't ban you for rightfully reporting a regular
Anskerdank: At this point I can only encourage people to speak out; despite their threats they largely have no power. If I were to be elected, I would ensure that the law is used to the fullest extent, with no lenience, and I'd encourage whoever is elected to do the same.
Rivierenland: [Quoting one of his older posts] I shall try and combat double standards, but i won't pretend that i have done so in the past. That would make me a massive hypocrite
Gor Kebab: any additional comments?
Rivierenland: No
Anskerdank: None.
Libertandoniem: Nah
Gor Kebab: (to everyone) If you had to summarise your campaign in just a few points, or words, what would those be?
Rivierenland: Keep with the same stuff.
Libertandoniem: Catgirls for everyone
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Do whatever the people want.
Anskerdank: Anti-double standards, anti-spam, fun polls and executing the will of the people.
Gor Kebab: (to Anskerdank) You are a new face in the election game compared to the other candidates. Why should people prefer you over some more experienced and well-known individual?
Anskerdank: Well, it’s my policies which set me apart from the other candidates, not the experiences. Given the fact that this election is viewed by many as a popularity contest, it is my campaign’s plan to not win this based on popularity or experience, but for the policies which I feel are best for Europe.
Gor Kebab: Do you think Europe agrees with your policies?
Anskerdank: As an overall I'd have to say no given my stance on double standards. However, this campaign has been planned so that I make up the votes I lost because of that questions with those I hope to stand for. Don't take this as I only care about my target demographic, because if I won, then I would serve Europe as a whole and treat my voters the same as my non voters. To me there is no split in Europe; we are one region, always, but that doesn't mean we treat each other equally.
Gor Kebab: Any additional comments Anskerdank?
Anskerdank: None.
Gor Kebab: (to Libertandonien) During the last election, you were criticized for keeping a low profile in the electoral debate. Do you think that these critics were well placed?
Libertandoniem: While I personally didnt hear about those, I understand and agree with them. My main-problem is, that Discord is only available on my handy, which isnt as good to write stuff on as on the computer. But nonethless, I should've added more to the conversation than I did.
Gor Kebab: Do you think if you were more prolific, you could've won the election?
Libertandoniem: No, I think there would've still been the landslide by Scarlett
Gor Kebab: any additional comments?
Libertandoniem: No
Gor Kebab: (to Rivierenland) You are now undergoing your first term in the Commission after various attempts at election. Do you think you were able to keep the promises and stand by the ideals you proclaimed to your electors?
Rivierenland: No, I promised new laws and I haven't delivered. I promised to keep the status quo and in my first few weeks in modcom i have been anything but.
Gor Kebab: will you introduce these promised laws if elected again?
Rivierenland: Yes, i'll try to make the necessary adjustments to make my proposals approvable
Gor Kebab: do you think people can or should still trust you despite not delivering?
Rivierenland: People should think what they want. If they trust me, then that's always great. If they don't, then who am i to stop them?
Gor Kebab: How come you didn't deliver your promises?
Rivierenland: I had ideas for possible amendments and when they didn't turn out to be good, i didn't come round to adjusting them
(That is not a very good look on my behalf)
Gor Kebab: any additional comments?
Rivierenland: No
Gor Kebab: (to Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire) In the last electoral debate, you argued that the problem in Europe is not in the laws but rather in the enforcement of the laws. Would you elaborate more on this point?
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Well generally what I meant back then was that ModComm should have more individual discretion to deal with spam right away and enforce the law now rather than later. After all, that's what the people of Europe were complaining about on the RMB, so logically that's how I would have fixed it.
Gor Kebab: Any of the candidates have any questions regarding this statement?
Personally, I don't have any
Rivierenland: I don't have any either
Anskerdank: Nor do I.
Libertandoniem: Neither do I
Gor Kebab: Okay, so we are open to questions from the public
Question from The New Nordic Union. Real Question this time, for Ansker: You said 'for the policies which I feel are best for Europe'. What are these policies?
Anskerdank: They would be:
Fair punishment regardless of status
Tougher on extremism & spam
Protection of those lodging complaints against other members
Whatever the will of the people is with regards to a certain topic
Gor Kebab: and how would these be enforced?
Asnkerdank: For the first one: it would be normal statutory orders, and if missed out, another ModComm complaint lodged
For the second: Mutes, bans etc.
For the third: Banning retaliation against reasonable complaint, likely through a new law
For the fourth: whatever is necessary
Gor Kebab: Another from The New Nordic Union: Follow-Up Question for Ansker: What kind of 'protection' for those that report?
Asnkerdank: There would be the option to report anonymously, and any retaliation against it would be met with punishments as approved by ModComm
Gor Kebab: How would someone be able to report the issue anonymously?
Anskerdank: Essentially, they private message a regional officer and complain, with a request to remain anonymous. If deemed necessary, they will be contacted for permission to share identity within ModComm only.
Gor Kebab: Any questions from the candidates to one another?
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Lib seems to have been relatively quiet, does he have any specific policy goals for Europe?
Libertandoniem: More polls for Europe
Gor Kebab: Is that entirely it?
no new policies or anything?
Libertandoniem: I don't have specific policies, but I will be open to hear proposals from the people of Europe
Gor Kebab: Any more questions?
Rivierenland: Nee
Libertandoniem: Nein
Gor Kebab: Okay. So if there are no questions then the floor is open for everyone to make their closing statements
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: The first thing I will do if I am elected is become Commissioner
Anskerdank: Thank you all for a great debate, my official dispatch for this campaign will be released shortly.
Good luck to all.
Rivierenland: Bon soiree Europe. Please vote for me and have a nices lieben!
Libertandoniem: I hope you all sleep well tonight
Rivierenland: [Quoting SICE] Interesting........ hmm
Gor Kebab: Thank you everyone for coming. Thanks for keeping it civil. Best of luck everyone!
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: I hope you have a great day Gor.
Rivierenland: Same
Gor Kebab: Have a great day too you guys
[The following was not part of the official debate and is presented here for fairness. This transcript is heavily edited and simplified but the candidate’s words are untouched.]
SICE: The Moderation Committee recently issued a few orders, punishing who was engaging with spammers and who was expressing apology for extreme ideologies, that sparked some debate. What’s your opinion on these orders?
Walfo: Well on this order, punishing people who engage with spammers is very useful. Think of it like this, some people do bad things to get attention. If we work with or against people who are allowing spammers to do what they are doing, then we can stop their impetus to do it in the first place. Ignorance is the best option and will get it done. For apologies, I think that if somebody said something, apologizing is always a good thing, but I still believe that if somebody makes a comment they should receive a consequence, but the apology should be taken into consideration when charging.
[After being requested a precisation]
Well, we have to remember that some people who play this game are younger than we think, and influencing someone or trying to make something look better that is suggestive in any manner (for an extreme ideology) is not acceptable, and should not be tolerated.
SICE: What’s your take on the free speech for fascism argument and how do you plan to deal with it responsibly?
Walfo: Well on free speech, I live in the US so I treasure free speech. I believe that these ideals should be left to the Mods to take care of, with no major intervention from European officials. Still, we must remember that this is a game, and not a place to battle out ideologies, but as long as they keep it to themselves, without targeting or insulting another person, then we should not try to create a problem.
[Asking the question by himself]
What is your stance on the debate between who argues in favour of double-standards on regulars and newcomers, thinking they are natural and necessary, and who argues against, thinking they are deprecable and unfair?
First of all, if someone makes an infraction, (we all make the mistake I even have to), that if you make a mistake by mistake, you should receive a warning. But for any regular who thinks that they can get away with doing whatever they want because they have been around, is wrong. As said by many of the other candidates, everyone is equal before the law, and nobody when doing it on purpose should receive special treatment because of thier loyalty to the region.
Gor Kebab, are there any specific questions that you were going to ask me personally? I would be happy to reply!
Gor Kebab: there were no personal questions for you from the HO. I don't have any either. However I appreciate you doing this. It shows how dedicated you are
SICE: So you're ok with fascists on the RMB?
Walfo: No, I am not okay with it, but I do not want to split Europe more and more into an ideological-fueled conflict. As long as they keep it to themselfs, what is the problem?
SICE: Alright, that's fair (I actually had a similar-ish position in the debate lol)
So are there any additional comments Walfo?
Walfo: No, unless anything else shows up, (still trying to get an answer from Gor Kebab about any personal questions) I am set. Best of luck to everyone!
SICE: Alright, so at this time, I'll be opening up the floor for people to input further questions if they'd like
So NNU asked a question earlier for you, Whom will you give your votes this time if a candidate you do not like is apparently winning?
Walfo: HA, I am confident in myself, and will not give up. This is my last chance for a while, so I am giving it all I got.
Moderator:
Gor Kebab
Candidates:
Anskerdank
Libertandonien
Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire
Rivierenland
Walfo
Additional Questions:
The New Nordic Union
The New Nordic Union, Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, Yahlia, St Scarlett, and 8 othersApabeossie, The Champions League, Rivierenland, Libertandonien, Eco-Paris Reformation, New skandenivia, European Home Office, and Renway
For all those who missed it, here is the full transcript of the Electoral Debate held on Eurocord!
March 2021
The European Home Office brings you the full transcripts of the European Electoral Debate, held on the 21st of March at 5pm GMT+0 on the #comm-debates channel on Eurocord between Anskerdank, Libertandonien, Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, Rivierenland, and Walfo. The transcript was edited removing discord's quotes and tags in order to facilitate the reading.
The moderator's name is highlighted in orange, while the candidates' names are highlighted in blue. Questions are highlighted in italic. Editor's notes are enclosed between []. Naughty words are censored if present. Walfo was not present in person at the time of the debate and answered the questions only afterwards and on an unofficial occasion; to give everyone a fair representation, his answers were included at the end of this transcript. The questions posed by the moderator in the first round were prepared by the whole Home Office staff.
Gor Kebab: Hello everyone and welcome to today's debate! Our candidates today are Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, Rivierenland, Anskerdank, Walfo, and Libertandonien. Best of lucks with your campaign and with today's questions. I, Gor Kebab, am the moderator of this debate. I will allow the candidates to make an opening statement, then we will be jumping on to the questions prepared by the Home Office and then opening up the questions to the public. If you have any questions for the candidates, please put them in #commission and tell us who you are addressing the question to. Are all our candidates present today?
[MEE6, a Discord Moderation Bot, warns Gor Kebab for mass mention]
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: What the-
Rivierenland: G'day lads!
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: smh civil enforcer got it wrong
Anskerdank: Hello everyone, I am very pleased to be here.
Gor Kebab: Walfo and Libertandonien please confirm that you are present
Libertandonien: OwO
I'm here
Gor Kebab: we will wait a few minutes for Walfo. But if he isn't here, we will jump straight into the questions. However, you may begin with your opening statements if you have any
Rivierenland: I don't have one
Libertandonien: Hello everyone, I hope you got a nice day :)
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Nice debate you got there... Would be a real shame if someone...
Didn't say hello...
Anskerdank: I would like to start by wishing the best of luck to all candidates; with this current line up it will certainly be a very interesting line up. I would also like to wish those viewing a happy Sunday.
Rivierenland: Good luck to you too Ansker
Libertandonien: Same
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: I have no quarrels with any of you
Gor Kebab: Okay, it is 5pm GMT and still no sign of Walfo. We will get started with the questions.
Rivierenland: Let's roll!
Gor Kebab: (to everyone) The Moderation Committee recently issued a few orders, punishing who was engaging with spammers and who was expressing apology for extreme ideologies, that sparked some debate. What’s your opinion on these orders?
Rivierenland: I’m a member of modcomm so i won’t be giving any comment to this question
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire:It seems people reacted approvingly to these orders, so I guess they're fine
The people wanted it, and they got it
Libertandonien: Those Orders are absolutely justified
Europe's got a massive problem with spammers and those who interacted with them. And People who excuse fascist ideologies shall never be tolerated on the RMB
Anskerdank: I'm going to be straight to the point here. Although there are several who I am friendly with which were punished, I must say I agreed, and still agree, to all punishments given by those orders. Spamming and spreading tolerance of hateful ideologies should not and will not be tolerated.
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: People who excuse extremist ideologies at all are not ok
Gor Kebab: Interesting take from all of you, but generally the same thing. You all agree with the decisions made. correct?
Rivierenland: Yes
Anskerdank: I do.
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Well it was the will of the people, so of course.
Libertandonien: It seems so
Gor Kebab: everyone happy to move on or any more comments about the question?
Rivierenland: Let’s move
Libertandonien: Yes
Gor Kebab: (to everyone) What’s your take on the free speech for fascism argument and how do you plan to deal with it responsibly?
Rivierenland: If a person is extreme in their beliefs then i will make sure that they won’t stay in Europe for too long. Are they moderate in their beliefs, then I shall only notify the person(s) in question to the higher-ups to keep an eye on them.
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: If they merely label themselves as extremist, then I don't think they should be censored. If, however, they truly espouse extreme beliefs, then we have a problem.
Libertandonien: People of any extreme ideology should not be allowed to express their extreme opinions in Europe
Anskerdank:I believe that those who do hold those views should not be sharing them in a public space. There are many people, myself included, who have had family affected by fascism, so if you're going to argue it, and there should be no reason to be for or tolerate of it, at the very least do it in telegrams so only those who wish to be involved are involved.
Gor Kebab: SICE, so you are saying that people are allowed to have extreme views in Europe, as long as they don't express it?
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Yes. If they aren't causing trouble with their extreme beliefs (i.e they aren't putting "death to all jews" or something like that) on the RMB, then it wouldn't matter. The rules of NationStates are with me on this one.
Gor Kebab: and Riv, can you elaborate on the actions you will take to 'make sure that they won't stay in Europe for too long'?
Rivierenland: I'll do what i usually do and report them to modcomm and lobby for a ban for the person(s) in question
That is my elaboration
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: [to Riv] So would you be for the banning of Saiwania?
Rivierenland: I don't know who that is
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: He's a fascist apologist who resides in our region (at least as far as I can tell from his forum posts).
Rivierenland: Well, thank you for informing me on this, i'll table this case to modcomm right now
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: I could sift through his forum posts to get you evidence of that
Gor Kebab: Any additional comments on the matter?
Rivierenland: [To SICE]Thank you, that would help me with the matter in modcomm
Gor Kebab: Okay, if you two can continue the Saiwania issue in another channel, that'll be great. For now, we shall move onto the next question
Rivierenland: Alright then
Gor Kebab:(to everyone) What is your stance on the debate between who argues in favour of double-standards on regulars and newcomers, thinking they are natural and necessary, and who argues against, thinking they are deprecable and unfair?
Rivierenland: No comment
Libertandonien: Everyone should be treated equally in regards of spam. Only because they have a bigger population, it doesnt mean that they're above the law, including me.
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: All I can say is that we should have equality before the law
Anskerdank: I strongly believe that they are unfair; there has been multiple times where I have wished to report people who are considered elite and, through peer pressure, I have not done so. By this point the evidence is outdated and near useless. This allows the "elites" to escape justice. If you consider yourself an elite for whatever reason, please reconsider; there are few true elites in Europe and none of them should escape justice because of status.
Gor Kebab: [To Anskerdank] So you believe double standards is a problem in Europe?
Anskerdank: I do.
Gor Kebab: What do you reckon needs to be done to prevent double standards remaining an issue?
Libertandonien: Don't be feared to report people. Modcomm won't ban you for rightfully reporting a regular
Anskerdank: At this point I can only encourage people to speak out; despite their threats they largely have no power. If I were to be elected, I would ensure that the law is used to the fullest extent, with no lenience, and I'd encourage whoever is elected to do the same.
Rivierenland: [Quoting one of his older posts] I shall try and combat double standards, but i won't pretend that i have done so in the past. That would make me a massive hypocrite
Gor Kebab: any additional comments?
Rivierenland: No
Anskerdank: None.
Libertandoniem: Nah
Gor Kebab: (to everyone) If you had to summarise your campaign in just a few points, or words, what would those be?
Rivierenland: Keep with the same stuff.
Libertandoniem: Catgirls for everyone
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Do whatever the people want.
Anskerdank: Anti-double standards, anti-spam, fun polls and executing the will of the people.
Gor Kebab: (to Anskerdank) You are a new face in the election game compared to the other candidates. Why should people prefer you over some more experienced and well-known individual?
Anskerdank: Well, it’s my policies which set me apart from the other candidates, not the experiences. Given the fact that this election is viewed by many as a popularity contest, it is my campaign’s plan to not win this based on popularity or experience, but for the policies which I feel are best for Europe.
Gor Kebab: Do you think Europe agrees with your policies?
Anskerdank: As an overall I'd have to say no given my stance on double standards. However, this campaign has been planned so that I make up the votes I lost because of that questions with those I hope to stand for. Don't take this as I only care about my target demographic, because if I won, then I would serve Europe as a whole and treat my voters the same as my non voters. To me there is no split in Europe; we are one region, always, but that doesn't mean we treat each other equally.
Gor Kebab: Any additional comments Anskerdank?
Anskerdank: None.
Gor Kebab: (to Libertandonien) During the last election, you were criticized for keeping a low profile in the electoral debate. Do you think that these critics were well placed?
Libertandoniem: While I personally didnt hear about those, I understand and agree with them. My main-problem is, that Discord is only available on my handy, which isnt as good to write stuff on as on the computer. But nonethless, I should've added more to the conversation than I did.
Gor Kebab: Do you think if you were more prolific, you could've won the election?
Libertandoniem: No, I think there would've still been the landslide by Scarlett
Gor Kebab: any additional comments?
Libertandoniem: No
Gor Kebab: (to Rivierenland) You are now undergoing your first term in the Commission after various attempts at election. Do you think you were able to keep the promises and stand by the ideals you proclaimed to your electors?
Rivierenland: No, I promised new laws and I haven't delivered. I promised to keep the status quo and in my first few weeks in modcom i have been anything but.
Gor Kebab: will you introduce these promised laws if elected again?
Rivierenland: Yes, i'll try to make the necessary adjustments to make my proposals approvable
Gor Kebab: do you think people can or should still trust you despite not delivering?
Rivierenland: People should think what they want. If they trust me, then that's always great. If they don't, then who am i to stop them?
Gor Kebab: How come you didn't deliver your promises?
Rivierenland: I had ideas for possible amendments and when they didn't turn out to be good, i didn't come round to adjusting them
(That is not a very good look on my behalf)
Gor Kebab: any additional comments?
Rivierenland: No
Gor Kebab: (to Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire) In the last electoral debate, you argued that the problem in Europe is not in the laws but rather in the enforcement of the laws. Would you elaborate more on this point?
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Well generally what I meant back then was that ModComm should have more individual discretion to deal with spam right away and enforce the law now rather than later. After all, that's what the people of Europe were complaining about on the RMB, so logically that's how I would have fixed it.
Gor Kebab: Any of the candidates have any questions regarding this statement?
Personally, I don't have any
Rivierenland: I don't have any either
Anskerdank: Nor do I.
Libertandoniem: Neither do I
Gor Kebab: Okay, so we are open to questions from the public
Question from The New Nordic Union. Real Question this time, for Ansker: You said 'for the policies which I feel are best for Europe'. What are these policies?
Anskerdank: They would be:
Fair punishment regardless of status
Tougher on extremism & spam
Protection of those lodging complaints against other members
Whatever the will of the people is with regards to a certain topic
Gor Kebab: and how would these be enforced?
Asnkerdank: For the first one: it would be normal statutory orders, and if missed out, another ModComm complaint lodged
For the second: Mutes, bans etc.
For the third: Banning retaliation against reasonable complaint, likely through a new law
For the fourth: whatever is necessary
Gor Kebab: Another from The New Nordic Union: Follow-Up Question for Ansker: What kind of 'protection' for those that report?
Asnkerdank: There would be the option to report anonymously, and any retaliation against it would be met with punishments as approved by ModComm
Gor Kebab: How would someone be able to report the issue anonymously?
Anskerdank: Essentially, they private message a regional officer and complain, with a request to remain anonymous. If deemed necessary, they will be contacted for permission to share identity within ModComm only.
Gor Kebab: Any questions from the candidates to one another?
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: Lib seems to have been relatively quiet, does he have any specific policy goals for Europe?
Libertandoniem: More polls for Europe
Gor Kebab: Is that entirely it?
no new policies or anything?
Libertandoniem: I don't have specific policies, but I will be open to hear proposals from the people of Europe
Gor Kebab: Any more questions?
Rivierenland: Nee
Libertandoniem: Nein
Gor Kebab: Okay. So if there are no questions then the floor is open for everyone to make their closing statements
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: The first thing I will do if I am elected is become Commissioner
Anskerdank: Thank you all for a great debate, my official dispatch for this campaign will be released shortly.
Good luck to all.
Rivierenland: Bon soiree Europe. Please vote for me and have a nices lieben!
Libertandoniem: I hope you all sleep well tonight
Rivierenland: [Quoting SICE] Interesting........ hmm
Gor Kebab: Thank you everyone for coming. Thanks for keeping it civil. Best of luck everyone!
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire: I hope you have a great day Gor.
Rivierenland: Same
Gor Kebab: Have a great day too you guys
[The following was not part of the official debate and is presented here for fairness. This transcript is heavily edited and simplified but the candidate’s words are untouched.]
SICE: The Moderation Committee recently issued a few orders, punishing who was engaging with spammers and who was expressing apology for extreme ideologies, that sparked some debate. What’s your opinion on these orders?
Walfo: Well on this order, punishing people who engage with spammers is very useful. Think of it like this, some people do bad things to get attention. If we work with or against people who are allowing spammers to do what they are doing, then we can stop their impetus to do it in the first place. Ignorance is the best option and will get it done. For apologies, I think that if somebody said something, apologizing is always a good thing, but I still believe that if somebody makes a comment they should receive a consequence, but the apology should be taken into consideration when charging.
[After being requested a precisation]
Well, we have to remember that some people who play this game are younger than we think, and influencing someone or trying to make something look better that is suggestive in any manner (for an extreme ideology) is not acceptable, and should not be tolerated.
SICE: What’s your take on the free speech for fascism argument and how do you plan to deal with it responsibly?
Walfo: Well on free speech, I live in the US so I treasure free speech. I believe that these ideals should be left to the Mods to take care of, with no major intervention from European officials. Still, we must remember that this is a game, and not a place to battle out ideologies, but as long as they keep it to themselves, without targeting or insulting another person, then we should not try to create a problem.
[Asking the question by himself]
What is your stance on the debate between who argues in favour of double-standards on regulars and newcomers, thinking they are natural and necessary, and who argues against, thinking they are deprecable and unfair?
First of all, if someone makes an infraction, (we all make the mistake I even have to), that if you make a mistake by mistake, you should receive a warning. But for any regular who thinks that they can get away with doing whatever they want because they have been around, is wrong. As said by many of the other candidates, everyone is equal before the law, and nobody when doing it on purpose should receive special treatment because of thier loyalty to the region.
Gor Kebab, are there any specific questions that you were going to ask me personally? I would be happy to reply!
Gor Kebab: there were no personal questions for you from the HO. I don't have any either. However I appreciate you doing this. It shows how dedicated you are
SICE: So you're ok with fascists on the RMB?
Walfo: No, I am not okay with it, but I do not want to split Europe more and more into an ideological-fueled conflict. As long as they keep it to themselfs, what is the problem?
SICE: Alright, that's fair (I actually had a similar-ish position in the debate lol)
So are there any additional comments Walfo?
Walfo: No, unless anything else shows up, (still trying to get an answer from Gor Kebab about any personal questions) I am set. Best of luck to everyone!
SICE: Alright, so at this time, I'll be opening up the floor for people to input further questions if they'd like
So NNU asked a question earlier for you, Whom will you give your votes this time if a candidate you do not like is apparently winning?
Walfo: HA, I am confident in myself, and will not give up. This is my last chance for a while, so I am giving it all I got.
Moderator:
Gor Kebab
Candidates:
Anskerdank
Libertandonien
Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire
Rivierenland
Walfo
Additional Questions:
The New Nordic Union
Edit: Ninj'ed damn
Imperium Anglorum, The New Nordic Union, Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, South St Maarten, and 9 othersYahlia, Gor Kebab, Apabeossie, Rivierenland, Libertandonien, Eco-Paris Reformation, New skandenivia, Fjarrej, and Anglo-francios
unintentional ninja xD
Regnum Italiae, Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, Apabeossie, Rivierenland, and 4 othersLibertandonien, Eco-Paris Reformation, Viktorias, and Fjarrej
I'm surprised and glad that my unofficial debate with Walfo made it into the dispatch :O
The united england, Yahlia, Laver Island, Gor Kebab, and 7 othersSt Scarlett, Rivierenland, Libertandonien, Eco-Paris Reformation, New skandenivia, Renway, and Fjarrej
Regy is dedicated to the cause
The New Nordic Union, Regnum Italiae, Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, Yahlia, and 7 othersLaver Island, Gor Kebab, Rivierenland, Libertandonien, Eco-Paris Reformation, New skandenivia, and Ereviest
Yay thank you Gor Kebab and participants and NNU :)
The New Nordic Union, Gor Kebab, Rivierenland, Libertandonien, and 3 othersEco-Paris Reformation, Renway, and Fjarrej
do you have a dispatch for the election?
good morning europe how is everyone?
Eco-Paris Reformation, Renway, and Anglo-francios
All of you did a fantastic job, what a riveting debate. (Also I just hit 100 million citizens!!!!!!) :)
Edit: and the moderator himself liked my post :o
Gor Kebab, Eco-Paris Reformation, Fjarrej, and Lengleng nation
Great! I feel more confident in who I'll be voting for, like I know whose policies align the best with mine.
I am good. You?
I have a conlang that's an analogue of Papiamento and mixes Middle Persian, Insular Swahili (a.k.a. Shimaore), Sakalava Malagasy (especially Shibushi) and Tulu.
Troteïàpa toïom!
The New Nordic Union, Rivierenland, Eco-Paris Reformation, and Fjarrej
I think Anskerdank had a very strong debate personally
Eco-Paris Reformation and Fjarrej
Same
What hapoened?
I've decided to stop liking any posts from now on, I mean liking posts doesn't even serve any purpose lol.
Edit: also I don't want to unnecesarily ping people's notices.
South St Maarten, Rivierenland, Eco-Paris Reformation, Chaykarosh, and 2 othersRenway, and Ereviest
Who are you going to vote for?
Anskerdank.
Edit: by the way, you should join the World Assembly so that you can vote.
Liking posts means you liked the post. And I liked your post about not liking post because there and no posts anymore because I liked it ....
I'm confused XD
Yahlia, St Scarlett, Rivierenland, Eco-Paris Reformation, and 1 otherEreviest
I like you're post with out presing like buton. AREST ME GANGSTER.
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