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Lagrodia wrote:End democracy.

Single party state anyone?

United massachusetts and Lagrodia

Culture of Life wrote:By the end of next week, the Senate -- The Catholic State of Eire, Phydios, and United massachusetts -- needs to pass a bill establishing methods of election for the Senate and the Speaker and fixing the number of senators. Then, the Assembly needs to vote on the bill, and the Constitution mandates a minimum three-day voting period. Recall that the next legislative election is scheduled to begin on July 15th.

Timeline of Deadlines
July 11th -- Senate passes an election bill.
July 14th -- Assembly passes the same bill (after a three-day voting period).
July 14th -- Founder (me) grants assent and signs the election bill into law.
July 15th -- Nominations open for the Senate and Speaker of the Assembly.

The election will run from July 15th to July 25th -- seven days of nominations and campaigns, plus three days of voting.

Is UM both a Senator and President at the same time? Is that legal (also do you have a link for where on the regional forums the Constitution is?)

La france bonapartiste wrote:Being that the election is right around the corner, I wonder if we could reach some sort of arrangement to form the party I'm envisioning?

Imperii Ecclesia, Under ledzia, and anyone else out there who may be interested, but hasn't spoken yet?

IE, I know you want a monarchist party that isn't explicitly Bonapartist, Ledzia I know you want less of a strict monarchist party and more of a traditionalist or Bonapartist party, so perhaps we can reach a middle-ground?

Perhaps a party that has a more pan-traditionalist name, but which supports monarchy and tradition in general?

Alternatively, perhaps we could form a "bloc" that combines the names of two parties, one explicitly monarchist, the other a more big tent traditionalist wing? Idk how that option would vibe with the regional constitution though.

Whatever we decide on, we can continue negotiations after the election and change our structure later if we reach a new basis of consensus.

As an alternative to something as simple as the "Monarchist Party", I had been thinking the "Party of Order", since this was the ultraroyalist party of the Legitimists, but it has sort of an ominous vibe. Alternatively the Order and Progress Party (OPP), which would capture the spirit of Bonapartism without being explicitly monarchist or Bonapartist (Napoleon I's motto was "Liberté et l'Ordre Public" and Auguste Compte proposed "Ordre et Progrès" ["Love as a principle and order as the basis; progress as the goal"] which, though never adopted by Napoleon III, was later used by Brazil in 1889; both Napoleons were opposed to the revolutionary motto of "Liberté, égalité, et fraternité"). Or maybe even the Love, Order, and Progress Party (LOPP), if we really feel like going the "happy warrior" route.

During my time in RTL, I've seen many parties come and go- the Liberals for Life Coalition (though that was eaten up by the newer Christian Socialist Party), the Life Party, the Libertarian Party, the Progressive Party, and even a Reactionary Traditional Front. The only two parties that I think we have at the moment are the centre-right Conservative Federalist Party and the Christian Socialist Party. I've been a member of the Conservative Federalist Party since I've joined RTL, and I'm not sure I am quite ready to leave it quite yet. However, since we closed the Old Forums and I can't really access the old documents we wrote for the party, there is plenty of room to revitalize and already existing party and to keep the oldest running party in RTL going into the new decade. The major historical thing about the CFP that it's a big tent party of conservatives with a strong emphasis on the RTL army. We could potentially work as a subgroup or even "bloc" within the already existing party and perhaps revitalize it to get more members, and I'm pretty sure you could get wide appeal within the party if not for monarchism for strong traditionalism and order. I'm not sure I quite see the need for another political party as this time, especially if we only have three members.

Culture of Life, Horatius Cocles, United massachusetts, The Catholic State of Eire, and 1 otherUnder ledzia

United massachusetts

Apologies for my having been away. My grandfather was sick and ultimately passed this morning. Caring for him has taken up most of my time. I will get going on RTL stuff, but first I must appoint a Senator to serve in my interim, as I am required to resign from the Senate. I appoint Stellonia to this end. I will also contact Court appointees tonight. Library Commission members (you know who you are), please respond to my older telegram and we can get going. As for the constitutional reforms, I believe they are drafted in the forums already. I will admit I have not checked them of late.

In the meantime, please keep my grandfather in your prayers.

La france bonapartiste

Imperii Ecclesia wrote:

During my time in RTL, I've seen many parties come and go- the Liberals for Life Coalition (though that was eaten up by the newer Christian Socialist Party), the Life Party, the Libertarian Party, the Progressive Party, and even a Reactionary Traditional Front. The only two parties that I think we have at the moment are the centre-right Conservative Federalist Party and the Christian Socialist Party. I've been a member of the Conservative Federalist Party since I've joined RTL, and I'm not sure I am quite ready to leave it quite yet. However, since we closed the Old Forums and I can't really access the old documents we wrote for the party, there is plenty of room to revitalize and already existing party and to keep the oldest running party in RTL going into the new decade. The major historical thing about the CFP that it's a big tent party of conservatives with a strong emphasis on the RTL army. We could potentially work as a subgroup or even "bloc" within the already existing party and perhaps revitalize it to get more members, and I'm pretty sure you could get wide appeal within the party if not for monarchism for strong traditionalism and order. I'm not sure I quite see the need for another political party as this time, especially if we only have three members.

I guess I'll run as an independent then... 😔

I cannot join the CFP because of its secularism, first-and-foremost. I also don't like two party systems, and neither party is really a good fit for me--I'm not interested in socialism or conservatism. I also am not a huge fan of the CFP's pro-invader stance.

United massachusetts wrote:Apologies for my having been away. My grandfather was sick and ultimately passed this morning. Caring for him has taken up most of my time.

I'm terribly sorry to hear that UM. 😟 You have my deepest condolences...

Culture of Life and United massachusetts

United massachusetts

La france bonapartiste -- We were considering reforming the CSP to a Christian democratic system. Most of our members, strictly speaking, are not socialists. Would you be interested in joining such a party?

La france bonapartiste

United massachusetts wrote:La france bonapartiste -- We were considering reforming the CSP to a Christian democratic system. Most of our members, strictly speaking, are not socialists. Would you be interested in joining such a party?

Hmm...possibly.

Under ledzia

United massachusetts

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:Single party state anyone?

Yes, comrade.

United massachusetts

La france bonapartiste wrote:Hmm...possibly.

It's worth considering. Remember that real-life ideology doesn't play *as much* of a bearing on Right to Life politics as in-game ideology. And I think our recent debate (see RCS and I on the Discord) effectively demonstrates some of the basic differences between the parties. I will also note an interesting fact -- our region's parties (with exceptions) are split on religious lines. The Catholics dominate the CSP (Eire, myself, Cocles, New Dolgaria) and the Protestants (RCS, Phydios, Aawia) dominate the CFP. I think a rebranding of the CSP specificall in-line with Catholic Social Teaching (via Christian democracy or otherwise) would better reflect the real party lines in this region.

Perhaps it would even get Imperii Ecclesia to come home.

Culture of Life, Horatius Cocles, The Catholic State of Eire, Under ledzia, and 1 otherLa france bonapartiste

La france bonapartiste

United massachusetts wrote:I will also note an interesting fact -- our region's parties (with exceptions) are split on religious lines. The Catholics dominate the CSP (Eire, myself, Cocles, New Dolgaria) and the Protestants (RCS, Phydios, Aawia) dominate the CFP.

So what I'm hearing is there's an untapped Orthodox vote...? 🤔

United massachusetts

La france bonapartiste wrote:So what I'm hearing is there's an untapped Orthodox vote...? 🤔

All I'm saying, is if the Orthodox have to choose, we may have another Catholics Come Home moment.

United massachusetts

Also, an update -- I've been in talks with several regions about jumpstarting a PLI-esque organisation. Most of these talks happened about a month ago, but I believe there's still significant interest.

United massachusetts

Friends -- go here (viewtopic.php?f=9&t=487872) and pick "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities" as the poll option. Regional citizen Castle Federation wrote that one

The Rouge Christmas State and Under ledzia

Under ledzia

I am doing the poll I wanted to do, now since I won't get in trouble for it! Please vote now: page=poll/p=160433

and I will not make US election polls so far back before election! Stop with the telegrams!

Tagged: The Catholic State of Eire, United massachusetts

United massachusetts

United massachusetts wrote:All I'm saying, is if the Orthodox have to choose, we may have another Catholics Come Home moment.

I am not and will not be a catholic and I am one of the three founders of the CSP so don't forget that. Not to mention since we are indeed rebranding I am staying in the party.

United massachusetts

Under ledzia wrote:I am not and will not be a catholic and I am one of the three founders of the CSP so don't forget that. Not to mention since we are indeed rebranding I am staying in the party.

We have not decided to do so yet. And we would not rebrand as a Catholic Party -- I have no interest in stoking religious division in our region. We would always be open to non-Catholic members -- I was just noting a trend.

Culture of Life, Horatius Cocles, and Under ledzia

Don't know much about the three poll options but I'm not a big fan of the EU, so nationalist guy gets my vote.

Under ledzia

United massachusetts

The Rouge Christmas State wrote:Don't know much about the three poll options but I'm not a big fan of the EU, so nationalist guy gets my vote.

You really do not want him. Duda is highly anti-democratic honestly

Horatius Cocles and Under ledzia

United massachusetts wrote:You really do not want him. Duda is highly anti-democratic honestly

Seems like he would like Putin then.

Lagrodia and Under ledzia

Under ledzia

The Rouge Christmas State wrote:Don't know much about the three poll options but I'm not a big fan of the EU, so nationalist guy gets my vote.

oh no... I made a spelling error... It was supposed to be King Jadwiga xD

Edit: Fixed...

Horatius Cocles, The Rouge Christmas State, and United massachusetts

The Rouge Christmas State wrote:Don't know much about the three poll options but I'm not a big fan of the EU, so nationalist guy gets my vote.

Duda is very socialist though... believe it or not, but he is really socialist...

I'll say it. I like Duda and the PiS and if I were Polish, a people I have great affinity for, I would vote for him because of his pro-Catholic stance's. They also aren't economic neo-liberals which is an attraction too.

Lagrodia and Under ledzia

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:I'll say it. I like Duda and the PiS and if I were Polish, a people I have great affinity for, I would vote for him because of his pro-Catholic stance's. They also aren't economic neo-liberals which is an attraction too.

Interesting opinion. I happen to shift a lot into libelitarianism as of late, so...

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:Single party state anyone?

The Catholic Socialist Workers Party, yessir.

The problem with both of those candidates is that I don't agree with any of them...

Lagrodia wrote:The Catholic Socialist Workers Party, yessir.

Baruch HaShem...

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