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The Sangheili Separatist wrote:Haven't gotten far enough to unlock the cat things yet. So far I think the sentinels are better, but I want to unlock the genes to make a kavat look like a sphinx cat for lolz

I know theres a couple of super good cats and dogs, but I am nowhere near the point of caring about grinding them.

Wabacha wrote:I know theres a couple of super good cats and dogs, but I am nowhere near the point of caring about grinding them.

Yeah, the resources to make the foundry to start incubating them i havent even seen yet. Not that im that far into the game. just now on the mission for the archwing.

The Sangheili Separatist wrote:Yeah, the resources to make the foundry to start incubating them i havent even seen yet. Not that im that far into the game. just now on the mission for the archwing.

Oh you're not far at all.

Wabacha wrote:The one thing you have incorrect here is that not even Zocom's goddess spirit would know the difference, despite being directly connected to him.

Oh, fair then. This must be something really ancient to go under that Old spirit radar

Synnadine wrote:It is.................

Legendary

Heimrich: But why is he green?

Also Heimrich: Because, he is legendary

Wabacha wrote:

Not all Legends are heroes.

The mind is a curious thing.

The shifting of metal on leather feels uncomfortably loud in this silent dream as Heimrich readies himself for this confrontation. The event that happened in the real world, Heimrich making contact with Vengeance and the flash of blinding light already happened, yet it also hasn't happened yet. For Heimrich now, that is still the near future, and the cause of that light and the burning of all his power is unknown. Does he use it all to destroy this Nightmare? Or burn it in a meaningless attempt to stop it from waking in the material world? He with all his Mentat wisdom does not know. What he does know, or more so feel, is a new sense of the fragility of time. Something big happens here that decides history, and it is all up to him to save it.

A movement in the Nightmare's hands. He has no time to react, but here in the realm of the mind, Heimrich has a limitless source of power. Limitless is not enough. It takes all of his concentration to prepare a defense before the world ripples, Heimrich's left eye widens as half of his body is erased, his left leg and arm, his entire torso, and the right side of his face. He barely remains balancing before a slight nudge from behind makes him slowly fall, fading away to nothing to reveal another Heimrich standing behind him, only slight traces missing from him. The world reacts to the damage to Heimrich' double and himself, splotches of black replacing the already dark woods behind him, a painting slowly being undone by the black emptiness beginning to cover it. So little effort to destroy his double, and so much effort to create the time necessary to create the doppleganger in the first place. A fortitude put further to the test as he is erased just like the first Heimrich, not even a move from the Nightmare this time as the real Heimrich appears from out of the wall and charges the Legend. No matter how fast he moved he couldn't get close. He was running in place as he is erased again, the world slowly darkening as more and more of it is replaced with swathes of pure black.

No matter what I do I can't get close. Heimrich watches the Nightmare, the figure remaining motionless as it obliterates his form again. Heimrich reveals himself again in the center of the courtyard in his Crescent Breaker stance. But I don't need to! Brilliant white light burns in his sword as he swings in a perfect arc, only for his body to be ripped to shreds by the dark. But the Breaker sings true, hitting the Nightmare in a blast of brilliant light. Light that is condensed and sucked into the burning green eye. It all is hopeless, he can't get close and his attacks can't harm. The citadel begins to fade as the dark takes over like a fog, fully surrounding Heimrich's broken form and plunging him into night. What was he supposed to do here? What was the point of Mantra and the Mentat state if all it did was show this horror and not let him do anything to stop it? All this supposed mental power and it doesn't even work? Atticus had to have led him in the wrong direction, false information to keep him under control. There must have been something in the Mentat form that made Atticus scared, and he couldn't fathom letting Heimrich have an edge over him. It must have been in how he unlocked his aura in the first place. Atticus sabotaged him! He'll make him pay, and he'll make his accomplice Alice-

"YOU DARE PLAY WITH MY MIND!"

The dark vanishes like a scared animal, the sky reforming completely as the Nightmare looks on. Pure rage flows through Heimrich now, standing in the center of blooming colors and shining stone. The collar of his vest flows with his hair under the effect of his aura, markings glowing on exposed skin as he stands fully intact and invigorated in defiance of the Legend's poison. His old armor and sword are no more as Steel Reminiscence flares to life in dancing blades, his new clothes perfect and unharmed as Heimrich fully taps into the Mentat state. "You will never break me. You can count on that!"

ZOCOM wrote:Oh, fair then. This must be something really ancient to go under that Old spirit radar
Heimrich: But why is he green?

Also Heimrich: Because, he is legendary

This is why.

Wabacha wrote:In the beginning, after the old gods were born from cosmic light and primal fire, the first man was born from the dust. Born into a world ruled by the dragons, the frail mortality of man hindered them, casting them permanently into their overlord's shadows. Generations of mortals withered under the gaze of the primal creatures, the old spirits of the world and the monsters. Those desparate to survive fell to the whispers of the Hunt, calling upon them to kill and consume the lives of their fellow man to survive just a day longer. They became gnarled, hollow versions of themselves, as humanity's spark began to fade.

All except the first man.

He cast away his humanity and sought answers for his existence, peering into the darkest corners of the world, searching for the true meaning for his birth. Some say a star guided him to his answers, offering him knowledge of mankind's purpose in this world. Others say a serpent whispered lies into his ears as he slept. Still others say a man in white robes with the appearance of an angel guided him into the depths of the spirit world, to a location that should be forgotten by all of creation. Perhaps the first man found what he was looking for, in the depths of unknown hells. No one knows, for this is the end of his tale.

Ages pass, and mankind remains shackled to the will of the old gods and the dragons, crushed underfoot like insects as they pass. Mankind is few and numbered, and destined to die out, to leave the world to the monsters. But in the wake of the first man, others followed. Countless more walked the path of the firstborn of man, all guided by mankind's star that shined over them, beckoning them to a knowledge everlasting. But so many fell on the way, falling to carnal desires or slain on their journey by man and monster alike, mankind forever cursed to never discover the answer that the first man sought. Ages pass, and none have succeeded. Some few have reached the abyss that the first man looked into in the days of yore, but just like him, none returned. As mankind fell to darkness, one more man began the journey. Clothed in rags and armed only with his staff and sword, the Pilgrim walked under mankind's star, following the path that an uncountable multitude had prepared for him. He braved the monsters and resisted the temptations of the dark path, to find himself too at the mouth of that forgotten abyss. He too, like the first man and those who crossed before him, entered that dark abyss, where no man had ever returned.

And from the abyss rose the Legend.

Rego.

Wabacha wrote:As the Legend rose from the abyss, he destroyed the shackles of the Hunt that had bound humanity for aeons. Now freed from their fate, mankind flocked to Rego's banner, their inevitable hero under their shining star. And so began humanity's evolution, and the upheaval of the world's status quo. Leading the armies of humanity, nothing could oppose Rego and his might. His sword reborn slayed countless god's, and his reborn staff pierced the hearts of dragons as a holy spear. Even the firstborn of all creation were forced to bow before him. And so the title of Legend will always be his, the only man to conquer and create a world-wide Empire, a feat never seen and never again achieved, even by the dragons themselves. All were forced to see what humanity truly was. Their masters.

Rego ruled his mighty Empire, and humanity spread across all of Immensus. In new landsthey settled, some changed by the land's magic into new species, but all bent knee to their savior. Mankind was supreme for a time, until Rego returned to the abyss from which he came, his true mission unknown yet complete.

His Empire fragmented witho it him, succeeded by countless tiny kingdoms ruled by generals of his invincible armies of superhuman. But without the Legend himself, humanity was eventually curbed.

But they did not return to what they once were. All of creation now understood the terrible power that laid hidden in humanity, and the bright star that guided them to this future. The dragons saw a need to guide, not control, humanity. Their differences on how to go about this resulted in the great dragon schism, and the birth of the Belief and the Idea, but that is a tale for another day.

"Rego may be gone, Vasile, but his impact upon the world will never end." The old hag blinks at the motionless vampire. "His power and the path he forged is not bound to history alone. For billions of years, Shadows of his life and passing arose to continue his conquests and his true, unknown mission. While they are but fragments, slivers of his memory, they have power near unparalleled in this world. One such Shadow of Rego, you are very well familiar with."

Vasile's visage grows grim.

"Millions of years ago, when your god's still walked the land, a Shadow was born in this place. And your world ended."

"The Wadi of my time too spoke of this," Vasile finally speaks, "You know this is not news to me."

"What you do not know, is that while that Shadow too disappeared, Rego's legacy continues on in humanity. All throughout history heroes arose, born to do great things. Some of them a calling higher than you can dream. For within all of humanity lies the Legend's power, what keeps humanity from falling once more to the dark callings of the Hunt. From that seed something can grow. Something truly legendary."

The hag narrows her eyes. "Thirty years before the Year of R a man appeared, the right hand of an evil necromancer king that waged war against the kingdoms of Purira during the war of the Angels and Demons. That man was more powerful than any other combined, and it took the might of an angel blessed by Belief to slay him. But in his own death he felt Despair. A Despair so powerful, so beyond just his own, that the seed planted by the Shadow of Rego's passing bloomed. And so was birthed the Legendary Dreadknight Xalibur. While eventually contained, he was released suring the Year of R, where he made bloom the seeds in three children's souls Rego's power as well. With new legends born, the world was saved, and Xalibur disappeared, changed by the children. One child that was with them that was not given a Legendary line appointed herself his guardian, until he was needed once more."

Vasile remains silent, absorbing this as the hag continues.

"The three lines have been passed down through the generations, some being changed in unusual circumstances, but persisting until now. For the first time since That Year, one of the Legendary lines has awakened."

"This time, the Shadow will not be there to protect them."

Vasile stands, redonning his hat as he turns for the door.

"We both know you are not strong enough to resist even one of them, let alone all of them, vampire."

The Lord of the night stops at the open door for just a moment. "By the moment they all awake..." He turns his head to gaze upon her with one liquid gold eye. "That will no longer be a concern."

He turns again, walking outside as he adjusts his hat, eyes closed. "I thank you for your assistance, this time's Wadi. The next time we meet, it will be at this world's end."

Wabacha wrote:This is why.

Wait hold up, so Duncan's family is part of one of these three legendary bloodlines that contains one of the three parts of Xaliber? This is an interesting spin on just how much the world grave has affected his family line seeing as not only he has this but also the power of the First king who was born in the grave where humanity trudged through the unknown hells in bids of obtaining power and the secrets of humanity.

ZOCOM wrote:Wait hold up, so Duncan's family is part of one of these three legendary bloodlines that contains one of the three parts of Xaliber? This is an interesting spin on just how much the world grave has affected his family line seeing as not only he has this but also the power of the First king who was born in the grave where humanity trudged through the unknown hells in bids of obtaining power and the secrets of humanity.

He is, the Legendary bloodline joined his family at some point before his birth, not on the Crossed King's side. The Legend is passed down generation to generation, Duncan got it by chance instead of either of his siblings. Or Lewis had it and passed it onto Duncan upon his death, as it can be passed on to the closest person they care deeply about. Probably Duncan though. Not like it truly matters since no one would know.

Now onto something important, how the Legendary bloodline manifests when it first awakens inside someone. Well, when it manifests normally, since Cross has grown and festered for years. We'll use Sam as an example. As soon as he became a Legend he was no longer a vampire, something he didn't discover until a couple days afterwards. He became a Primal human, just like the Pilgrim and the First Man. Sam feels and appears just like any vampire, but isn't. That's because Primal humans were very malleable and easily corrupted/changed by their surroundings and experiences. Sam retained most of his vampire qualities like the paler skin, thin body, fangs, and eyes changing with extreme anger, but lost his vampiric hunger and ability to subsist off only blood since he was now human and had to eat actual food. That was the only reason Sam made the eventual discovery that he was no longer a vampire.

Sam also can use "aura". It looks like aura, acts like aura, for all intents and purposes it is aura, but it is only his own mind using what comes naturally. In all truth he isn't burning any aura or releasing any aura at all, but instead using his latent Primal powers to manipulate reality in a limited way to create "aura". If Duncan had ever attained Legendary status in a normal way, he would still have "aura", "mana", and his "Crossed Powers". They just wouldn't be the original thing. The only people who could even tell the difference are people in the Second World, the Old Hag (only because she knows what they know, and if they know what it really is then so would she.), other people who have attained Legendary status, the literal creators of good and evil (Cidon the Heart of Darkness and whatever his counterpart's name was), True Dragons who have seen Legends before, the Peinal Dragons, the Four Kings, and the Creator of the universe Himself. So yeah, on a universal scale a short list. To put it into perspective Enkara is known to exist for 400 years, roams the entire globe, and can draw on the memories of a Dragon as old as Earth. Yet Sam was the first time he had seen a Legend.

Back on topic, Duncan (if he ever unlocks Legendary status) could continue to use his abilities before he became a Primal human, or unlearn it all in search of Primal secrets, spells, and sorceries. How he proceeds from that hypothetical scenario is completely up to you, since I don't like pushing character paths on people too often.

Wabacha wrote:He is, the Legendary bloodline joined his family at some point before his birth, not on the Crossed King's side. The Legend is passed down generation to generation, Duncan got it by chance instead of either of his siblings. Or Lewis had it and passed it onto Duncan upon his death, as it can be passed on to the closest person they care deeply about. Probably Duncan though. Not like it truly matters since no one would know.

Now onto something important, how the Legendary bloodline manifests when it first awakens inside someone. Well, when it manifests normally, since Cross has grown and festered for years. We'll use Sam as an example. As soon as he became a Legend he was no longer a vampire, something he didn't discover until a couple days afterwards. He became a Primal human, just like the Pilgrim and the First Man. Sam feels and appears just like any vampire, but isn't. That's because Primal humans were very malleable and easily corrupted/changed by their surroundings and experiences. Sam retained most of his vampire qualities like the paler skin, thin body, fangs, and eyes changing with extreme anger, but lost his vampiric hunger and ability to subsist off only blood since he was now human and had to eat actual food. That was the only reason Sam made the eventual discovery that he was no longer a vampire.

Sam also can use "aura". It looks like aura, acts like aura, for all intents and purposes it is aura, but it is only his own mind using what comes naturally. In all truth he isn't burning any aura or releasing any aura at all, but instead using his latent Primal powers to manipulate reality in a limited way to create "aura". If Duncan had ever attained Legendary status in a normal way, he would still have "aura", "mana", and his "Crossed Powers". They just wouldn't be the original thing. The only people who could even tell the difference are people in the Second World, the Old Hag (only because she knows what they know, and if they know what it really is then so would she.), other people who have attained Legendary status, the literal creators of good and evil (Cidon the Heart of Darkness and whatever his counterpart's name was), True Dragons who have seen Legends before, the Peinal Dragons, the Four Kings, and the Creator of the universe Himself. So yeah, on a universal scale a short list. To put it into perspective Enkara is known to exist for 400 years, roams the entire globe, and can draw on the memories of a Dragon as old as Earth. Yet Sam was the first time he had seen a Legend.

Back on topic, Duncan (if he ever unlocks Legendary status) could continue to use his abilities before he became a Primal human, or unlearn it all in search of Primal secrets, spells, and sorceries. How he proceeds from that hypothetical scenario is completely up to you, since I don't like pushing character paths on people too often.

Holy crap so that was what happened to Sam? Well bloody hell he managed to become something legendary... This suddenly makes the way I want him to go out when his time comes somewhat more detrimental to other sectors XD

Though... It does give me more than afew new ideas for just how this nxt arc is going to work, I had been toying with something but with all this, huehuehue. Obviously no Legendary status straight away but maybe a glimpse into it to make, I mean. You have been pretty much helping to steer me down a path since I first brought Duncan to life so I don't mind. My boy is my pride and joy, even more so than my own namesake politely ignore the lack of work done on his factbook entry that I have not edited in forever

And then he manifested in real life and ate at where Senpai works. Gasp, maybe he already became legendary and got hungry for chicken XD

Tag:Lore

ZOCOM wrote:Holy crap so that was what happened to Sam? Well bloody hell he managed to become something legendary... This suddenly makes the way I want him to go out when his time comes somewhat more detrimental to other sectors XD

Though... It does give me more than afew new ideas for just how this nxt arc is going to work, I had been toying with something but with all this, huehuehue. Obviously no Legendary status straight away but maybe a glimpse into it to make, I mean. You have been pretty much helping to steer me down a path since I first brought Duncan to life so I don't mind. My boy is my pride and joy, even more so than my own namesake politely ignore the lack of work done on his factbook entry that I have not edited in forever

And then he manifested in real life and ate at where Senpai works. Gasp, maybe he already became legendary and got hungry for chicken XD

Something major that I forgot to mention is that as a Primal human, the passage of time does not effect them normally. In short he is effectively unageing and will never die naturally, but can still be killed. In long, how time effects him is heavily effected by his own weariness, drastic changes in power, his mental state, and other such things. I dont have the time to really go into it in total right now so specific questions would help. But basically he would appear as he does now forever by default. If he matures further emotionally and becomes more grounded or somesuch he would become older, looking 30-40. This may go further all the way until he is silver haired and aged elegantly. He can also be aged from growing tired of time's effect on him, depression from losing countless loved ones and friends could age him as well, to the point that he becomes a tired old man. If he grows mighty then is defeated so soundly that he loses faith in his power and in himself, he may grow old looking over time and move to seclusion. Or he may just will himself to die. There's a lot of ways time and experience could change him, so who knows what the future will bring. Or if it will even happen, depends on how Heimrich deals with Knightmare Cross, win or lose.

Wabacha wrote:Tag:Lore

Something major that I forgot to mention is that as a Primal human, the passage of time does not effect them normally. In short he is effectively unageing and will never die naturally, but can still be killed. In long, how time effects him is heavily effected by his own weariness, drastic changes in power, his mental state, and other such things. I dont have the time to really go into it in total right now so specific questions would help. But basically he would appear as he does now forever by default. If he matures further emotionally and becomes more grounded or some such he would become older, looking 30-40. This may go further all the way until he is silver haired and aged elegantly. He can also be aged from growing tired of time's effect on him, depression from losing countless loved ones and friends could age him as well, to the point that he becomes a tired old man. If he grows mighty then is defeated so soundly that he loses faith in his power and in himself, he may grow old looking over time and move to seclusion. Or he may just will himself to die. There's a lot of ways time and experience could change him, so who knows what the future will bring. Or if it will even happen, depends on how Heimrich deals with Knightmare Cross, win or lose.

... Okay so first

https://imgur.com/mG6zpwB

Now onto the rest of my thought pattern. That is quite the bit of lore you forgot to mention. I suppose this doesn't really hinder sam any, he was already Immortal so it doesn't matter much to him either way depending on the situation. But this, oh my god this changes so much. Well it will depending on if Heimrich can drag the concept of Duncan back from the Knightmare.

Hmm.. As for any questions... I don't have any off the top of my head

ZOCOM wrote:... Okay so first

https://imgur.com/mG6zpwB

Now onto the rest of my thought pattern. That is quite the bit of lore you forgot to mention. I suppose this doesn't really hinder sam any, he was already Immortal so it doesn't matter much to him either way depending on the situation. But this, oh my god this changes so much. Well it will depending on if Heimrich can drag the concept of Duncan back from the Knightmare.

Hmm.. As for any questions... I don't have any off the top of my head

Time Wizards: Man there's a lot of universe-splitting events going on, I wonder where they all lea-
KNIGHTMARE CROSS: *MENACING*
Time Wizards: Ah yes time for scream.

I wonder would Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan Blue be evenly matched in power? Or would one be stronger than the other? From what I seen from the first episode of Dragon Ball Heroes both SSB and SSJ4 look equal in power.

Just asking because I plan on doing something with Aylote once he meets May and the others.

Aeritai wrote:I wonder would Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan Blue be evenly matched in power? Or would one be stronger than the other? From what I seen from the first episode of Dragon Ball Heroes both SSB and SSJ4 look equal in power.

Just asking because I plan on doing something with Aylote once he meets May and the others.

I wouldn't take anything Heroes does seriously.

Not to mention Xenoverse Goku, the one with SS4, also is infused with god ki, so his power is way higher than it should be.

But again, don't take what I'm saying seriously, because it's coming from Heroes, which shouldn't be taken seriously.

Aeritai

Rival Bout wrote:I wouldn't take anything Heroes does seriously.

Not to mention Xenoverse Goku, the one with SS4, also is infused with god ki, so his power is way higher than it should be.

But again, don't take what I'm saying seriously, because it's coming from Heroes, which shouldn't be taken seriously.

That's a shame, I want to try and keep the power level realistic without having SSJ4 over power SSB or make SSJ4 too weak at the same time.

Aeritai wrote:That's a shame, I want to try and keep the power level realistic without having SSJ4 over power SSB or make SSJ4 too weak at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMPBH9FVbVQ

This might pique your interest then.

Aeritai wrote:I wonder would Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan Blue be evenly matched in power? Or would one be stronger than the other? From what I seen from the first episode of Dragon Ball Heroes both SSB and SSJ4 look equal in power.

Just asking because I plan on doing something with Aylote once he meets May and the others.

Rival Bout wrote:I wouldn't take anything Heroes does seriously.

Not to mention Xenoverse Goku, the one with SS4, also is infused with god ki, so his power is way higher than it should be.

But again, don't take what I'm saying seriously, because it's coming from Heroes, which shouldn't be taken seriously.

Aeritai wrote:That's a shame, I want to try and keep the power level realistic without having SSJ4 over power SSB or make SSJ4 too weak at the same time.

Unarguably, Goku as SSB is stronger than Goku as SSJ4. While just SSG Goku's fist clashes with Beerus were putting the entire universe at risk, and SSB is stronger than even that. Compared to Goku's base, prior to unlocking SSG and God ki in general, where he was (supposedly) still not stronger than Frieza's final form and would've needed to transform. Truthfully power scaling in DBZ is...difficult. And unreliable.

Regardless, by all rights SSB would be a FAR stronger transformation than SSJ4. By extension, SSB Goku would be in a different league compared to SSJ4 Goku. That said, Xenoverse SSJ4 Goku would (in theory) be a different story, as he would have God Ki alongside it and thus be much stronger than the canon variation. So perhaps SSB and SSJ4 w/God Ki would be more evenly matched but any such debates there would be pure conjecture.

ZOCOM wrote:Holy crap so that was what happened to Sam? Well bloody hell he managed to become something legendary... This suddenly makes the way I want him to go out when his time comes somewhat more detrimental to other sectors XD

Though... It does give me more than afew new ideas for just how this nxt arc is going to work, I had been toying with something but with all this, huehuehue. Obviously no Legendary status straight away but maybe a glimpse into it to make, I mean. You have been pretty much helping to steer me down a path since I first brought Duncan to life so I don't mind. My boy is my pride and joy, even more so than my own namesake politely ignore the lack of work done on his factbook entry that I have not edited in forever

And then he manifested in real life and ate at where Senpai works. Gasp, maybe he already became legendary and got hungry for chicken XD

And yes, the sheer trauma he suffered was so great it had awakened the Legendary bloodline that he had inherited by chance, his being the bloodline of Wrath. Each bloodline has their own "trait" with a color to match, Sam's being Wrath and red. As Putnam said people who aren't born with it can inherit it by being close to someone with the bloodline when they die, either by being in their thoughts (i.e close to their heart) or actual physical proximity. Sam had both when he inherited it, which was nearly 18 years ago or something like that actually.

Long story made very short, Sam found a woman he discovered to be a long lost descendant of his from family that did NOT live in his kingdom during the slaughter. It was by no means a close blood connection to begin with, and was only made even slimmer over so many generations, but he was able to notice the traces of his families aural signature the moment he saw her. Being in a vampire ridden city that he was actively trying to cleanse, he tried protecting her from the threat only to end up being killed in front of him via snap and dump (get it, like snatch and grab, but they snapped her neck and dumped her body). Minutes later, while Sam was grieving that his last remaining family member and last hope for the continuation of his bloodline however feint just died in front of him, she woke up as a vampire in transition. A double-edge act that the vampires Sam was after KNEW would get to him. He tried convincing her to drink blood so she could complete her transition and continue living but she refused since, if she did not drink blood, she would technically remain a human and thus could die as one. Sam honored what was essentially her last request and ended up dying 24 hours later in his arms as a result of her not completing transition...which is quite painful, as you are literally starving to death at a rapid rate.

At some point, unbeknownst to Sam, Judy had picked up the Legendary bloodline herself and at the moment of her death passed it onto Sam. Sam himself only found out that this is what happened when he later when to the old Hag Lady in the forest, during the two week time skip, and asked her what the what happened why and how. Of course she didn't give him a straight answer but he ended up picking up the hints she threw at him...eventually. So as of time skip this is what Sam knows: He is no longer a vampire but is rather a primal human (who can thankfully still pass as a vampire to...well, just about everyone), he has some sort of great power within him that he inherited from a Legendary Bloodline via Judy's death in his arms, there are two others besides him with this power/bloodline making for three of them in all, and that these bloodlines come from some "Xalibur". If he would know more than this by now then Putnam would have to tell me, cause I'm pretty sure Hag Lady wouldn't have just outright told him just about anything :P

Oh and FYI, only Anne, Jet, Saria and Flaire are aware he is no longer a vampire. He has told NO ONE. And also fears the Vampiric Nation somehow finding out because it would ruin everything he hopes to accomplish with them, so keeping up the ruse that he is still a vampire is absolutely vital. PS- Thanks for spoiling that detail Putnam! I wanted to eventually make a big reveal for John and his character to go all "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!" D:

On a side note, the vampires were hoping this death (as they came to learn how much the otherwise defenseless human girl meant to Sam) would completely demoralize him and get him to back down. He went into a berserk rage instead and slaughtered most of them quite openly, but some of the leadership got away as a result of the sudden show of force versus his prior guerrilla work. The leadership was spearhead by Sam's former "Emperor" which was the very reason he sought out to take it down in the first place, being the first lead he had on him in centuries. But he was among those who escaped, being a coward at heart.

Synnadine wrote:

Oh and FYI, only Anne, Jet, Saria and Flaire are aware he is no longer a vampire. He has told NO ONE. And also fears the Vampiric Nation somehow finding out because it would ruin everything he hopes to accomplish with them, so keeping up the ruse that he is still a vampire is absolutely vital. PS- Thanks for spoiling that detail Putnam! I wanted to eventually make a big reveal for John and his character to go all "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!" D:

You literally had Sam say he was no longer a vampire to the Emperor during the two week time skip. XD

Wabacha wrote:You literally had Sam say he was no longer a vampire to the Emperor during the two week time skip. XD

Synnadine wrote:Again he tries to speak only this time Sam throws aside to the ground, allowing him some breathing room. Niklaus clambers around on his back in an attempt to crawl away as his grievous heart wound tries to heal, but to no avail. He wouldn’t be able to escape anyways...begging is the only potential way out for him. With tears now streaming down the weak man’s face he pleads for mercy and begs for his life as for every inch he crawls away, his murderer-to-be takes one step towards him. “Please, Sam, killing me won’t solve anything! It won’t fill that hole in your heart! Revenge won’t fix what I did to you! It won’t bring anyone back! If you kill me your soul will be just as damned as mine!” Without blinking Sam continues his slow steps forward, outpacing Niklaus’s crawl, as the pleading man releases one last cry…

“Revenge won’t cure you!”

With that Sam finally stops, his gaze into Niklaus’s eyes slowly falling to the ground. He starts to slightly shake, implying that may have finally reached him, until a slight laugh can be heard. Suddenly Sam arches his back as he looks to the sky, laughing almost maniacally before looking back to Niklaus, an almost deranged determination in his eyes as he lunges forward and covers his former Emperor’s entire face with his hand pinning him to the ground. “I don’t need anything fixed. I don’t need a hole in my heart filled and I don’t need your death to cure me...this is revenge for the sake of revenge...before you die, I want to make sure the last words you’ll ever hear are these-----”

Outside the chamber one of Niklaus’s final remaining followers pokes their head cautiously around the corner, one who ultimately decided to return after attempting to flee. What they see is their charismatic leader pleading for his life like a mere worm, pleads that go completely ignored. He wants to help but is frozen in place, unable to move despite his best attempts. Pure fear has taken hold. He can see the bodies, see the way his leader is begging...if he tries to help he will die. That’s when his leader’s entire face is engulfed in Sam’s hand, muffling any further pleas as well as his own screaming. Then Sam says something that causes the Emperor’s eyes to widen in pure shock, or perhaps it’s the tightening grip on his skull causing his eyes to pop.

It’s hard to say for sure as the words shared couldn't be heard even by the vampiric follower, but sure enough just after the Emperor seems to be told the most shocking news of his entire life his head pops like an apple in a vice. His corpse drops seamlessly to the ground as Sam simply stands there and stares, chunks of skull and brain matter dripped from his hand, before simply walking off and leaving. Sam is perfectly aware of the returning followers presence but he’s less than a fly on the wall. Sam’s purpose is complete. Normally he’d use aura to destroy everything, from the bodies to the castle itself, but not this time. He wants the bodies to rot and decay, he wants the castle to remain there and fall to ruin....

You forget that while you may have known that's what Sam said, it was not revealed that that is what Sam said :P

Synnadine wrote:You forget that while you may have known that's what Sam said, it was not revealed that that is what Sam said :P

Hm, I do seem to be misremembering. Though I had to spill the beans since John has to know what's inside Duncan.

Wabacha wrote:Hm, I do seem to be misremembering. Though I had to spill the beans since John has to know what's inside Duncan.

Never! XD

Synnadine wrote:And yes, the sheer trauma he suffered was so great it had awakened the Legendary bloodline that he had inherited by chance, his being the bloodline of Wrath. Each bloodline has their own "trait" with a color to match, Sam's being Wrath and red. As Putnam said people who aren't born with it can inherit it by being close to someone with the bloodline when they die, either by being in their thoughts (i.e close to their heart) or actual physical proximity. Sam had both when he inherited it, which was nearly 18 years ago or something like that actually.

Long story made very short, Sam found a woman he discovered to be a long lost descendant of his from family that did NOT live in his kingdom during the slaughter. It was by no means a close blood connection to begin with, and was only made even slimmer over so many generations, but he was able to notice the traces of his families aural signature the moment he saw her. Being in a vampire ridden city that he was actively trying to cleanse, he tried protecting her from the threat only to end up being killed in front of him via snap and dump (get it, like snatch and grab, but they snapped her neck and dumped her body). Minutes later, while Sam was grieving that his last remaining family member and last hope for the continuation of his bloodline however feint just died in front of him, she woke up as a vampire in transition. A double-edge act that the vampires Sam was after KNEW would get to him. He tried convincing her to drink blood so she could complete her transition and continue living but she refused since, if she did not drink blood, she would technically remain a human and thus could die as one. Sam honored what was essentially her last request and ended up dying 24 hours later in his arms as a result of her not completing transition...which is quite painful, as you are literally starving to death at a rapid rate.

At some point, unbeknownst to Sam, Judy had picked up the Legendary bloodline herself and at the moment of her death passed it onto Sam. Sam himself only found out that this is what happened when he later when to the old Hag Lady in the forest, during the two week time skip, and asked her what the what happened why and how. Of course she didn't give him a straight answer but he ended up picking up the hints she threw at him...eventually. So as of time skip this is what Sam knows: He is no longer a vampire but is rather a primal human (who can thankfully still pass as a vampire to...well, just about everyone), he has some sort of great power within him that he inherited from a Legendary Bloodline via Judy's death in his arms, there are two others besides him with this power/bloodline making for three of them in all, and that these bloodlines come from some "Xalibur". If he would know more than this by now then Putnam would have to tell me, cause I'm pretty sure Hag Lady wouldn't have just outright told him just about anything :P

Oh and FYI, only Anne, Jet, Saria and Flaire are aware he is no longer a vampire. He has told NO ONE. And also fears the Vampiric Nation somehow finding out because it would ruin everything he hopes to accomplish with them, so keeping up the ruse that he is still a vampire is absolutely vital. PS- Thanks for spoiling that detail Putnam! I wanted to eventually make a big reveal for John and his character to go all "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!" D:

On a side note, the vampires were hoping this death (as they came to learn how much the otherwise defenseless human girl meant to Sam) would completely demoralize him and get him to back down. He went into a berserk rage instead and slaughtered most of them quite openly, but some of the leadership got away as a result of the sudden show of force versus his prior guerrilla work. The leadership was spearhead by Sam's former "Emperor" which was the very reason he sought out to take it down in the first place, being the first lead he had on him in centuries. But he was among those who escaped, being a coward at heart.

Well that certainly explains how he got hold of that power, though yeah while it is kind of a shame that I found out about Sam so soon XD but I guess it was kinda needed so I can get appropriate context

ZOCOM wrote:Well that certainly explains how he got hold of that power, though yeah while it is kind of a shame that I found out about Sam so soon XD but I guess it was kinda needed so I can get appropriate context

Duncan is mostly complete in his "alpha" state I'll call it for his character sheet on Rival Bout. I have just about all of his animations planned out, his normal, specials, hypers, and counters. I'm going to be moving on to Vengeance since he's a little similar.

Wabacha wrote:Duncan is mostly complete in his "alpha" state I'll call it for his character sheet on Rival Bout. I have just about all of his animations planned out, his normal, specials, hypers, and counters. I'm going to be moving on to Vengeance since he's a little similar.

Oh sweet.

I was just thinking on the bus yesterday that Duncan has as many forms as Goku at this point. I need to go back and see how many there are

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