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Lillorainen wrote:

Looks like we have some League of Annoying Neighbors in here. Gonna contribute one quite soon. This might end Lillo's neutral foreign policy ... "We decided to enter an alliance because our sandboxes started running crazy." Plans shalt be made.

If you want it to have a factbook-spot with the other NPC-Nations, throw me a TG and it shall go to the others.

Lillorainen wrote:

Sure, I'm gonna notify you in that case. Good to know there are templates for it, it will make it easier for me.

Well, the templates are optional and since the code-tags don't work in factbooks, I'll have to send them to you for maximum efficiency...

hey guys, pretty excited to be here as it seems like everything I've been looking for in a region (RP heavy focus, smallish, no set map that ruins my own plans, no silly regional government roles that forget that we are playing *entire nations*, etc. lol)

first things first: I need to start figuring out what my border nations are like. Most likely I'll just come up with them myself and add them to the NPC pile, but if anyone likes the idea of being near Ru we can discuss what exactly that might mean. lol. If they stay NPCs they'll probably be in Ru's sphere of influence to some degree or another so if Ru is a part of the SEA, they'd likely be as well.

Oh Also, getting to know the other nations here, Selkie's is the only one I've interacted with before.

Nice to see you in, Ru, welcome!

Guessing from the map you've got in your factbook, you have land neighbors, which may perfectly serve as NPC nations in case you'd like to include them. It's also entirely up to you which stance you've got with them (friendly, neutral, enemy, etc.).
That being said, my advantage of running an island nation is that it gives me the opportunity of relocating my place (including my NPC archrival) wherever needed ^^

Also, with my nation being just around three months old, you won't have had a lot of chances interacting with it - though, I'm sure this might change quite soon. ^^

As I said, that's the advantage island nations happen to have - before SEA became a thing and Selks and I met in a roleplay we've participated in, I also tended to assume that the Free Lands were far away from Lillorainen. Or, to put it into more precise terms, I just assumed that I was the one living behind the moon, with the other nations participating (at least those with a European makeup) being located on the other side of the planet and way closer to each other - "like ten hours of flight" from Lillorainen to the host nation of that RP, I presumed in the IC. So I basically pushed myself towards East Asia despite having a mostly European makeup. (The most notable relic of that time is the fact I use +997 as a country calling code; a code that isn't assigned to any RL country, but would suggest an Asian country following the RL code system.)

This had practical RP reasons, though - since at that time, my nation was very new and unknown (even the worldbuilding itself was still in the alpha stage of its process, and totally chaotic ^^), while most of the other players seemed to already know each other, including their nations, for quite a longer time. So assuming that suddenly a nation called "Lillorainen" had spawned within the same geographic area the others were located in without anyone ever having heard of it - that just didn't seem logical to me.

I "moved" my islands to an assumed area closer to the Free Lands as soon as we got closer then. The first SEA planning was the latest point at which I thought that it would be sensible and logical to assume less geographic distance between our nations for future RPs - without specifying a particular distance, to stay flexible for precisely the points you, Ru, have about this regional maps thing. Of course, this means a retcon of the details I used back then ... but since I've actually retconned a number of details since then, one more or less shouldn't matter, either.

You see, sometimes I think too much. Don't let yourself be fooled by this, though, as there is a huge number of things I spend too few thoughts on. ^^

So, awfully long story short, if we just keep assuming that we are "somewhat close enough" for SEA to make sense at all without specifying distances, or which direction you go in travelling from one place to another, it should be fine. I think, at least. :)

Thanks, and if it'd mess with what you are doing, I think it'd be better for you to keep your nations where they are and not worry about being anywhere close to Ru.

I have so far written out 5 out of the 7 border nations in my factbook. Mostly I am doing this to better complete my own understanding of Ru and it's geographic region. Though Ru would likely have pushed for all of them to get admitted into SEA on at least one occasion (whether or not the other SEA nations accepted every one is another matter) and we never know how we can use them later. Will do the other ones later tonight, and then move onto sports league stuff. (Dace in particular will take awhile, as I'm planning for them to be a longtime rival.)

As you can see from much of what I've written, you really *don't* want to be next to Ru in the ancient, feudal, and colonial days...

Ru- wrote:

Phew! Border nations finished. Dunno whether I'll just keep them in the factbook, add them to SEA npcs (is it just for non SEA member nations?) or make puppets for them. Depends on how much additional information i will need to add.

If nothing else, we have more nations for things like a regional sports tournament lol. And of course I had a bunch of fun with all the past tech historical stuff.

As far as I'm concerned, the NPC factbooks are for all NPCs - be they members or not (those who are in it so far are non-members for obvious reasons), but I'm not sure about this, so let's wait for the boss to tell us. ^^
That being said, you don't have to stick to the templates, their use is optional. I just did because I thought it's sensible.

Ru- wrote:

Ah ok great. That leaves us with the question of which of these nations were admitted to SEA. Ru proposed on behalf of all 7 of them but it's up to you three which ones actually got in.

First of all, thank you for the massive effort. These seven are remarkably different in their histories and cultures and relations to Ru (and most likely the other nations in SEA as well, if we want). If you want, I'll send you the password for the NPC-Nations, so that they can be posted there (and you don't HAVE to use the templates, but would make things easier ; )).
They'll indeed enrich this region and its events very much. To be honest, I'm indeed currently planning a sports tournament and I was thinking of football (the civilized one, which the Americans call soccer ; )). Anyone with other suggestions?

As for who got into SEA itself, I would propose, that Tolloran, Tayatska, Sharna and Dace are accepted as Full Members, while Strawbai is currently tested for viability as a member.

Ru- wrote:

Football makes alot of sense, the Ruvians play thier own 5v5 version and was gonna propose they host a tournament for that. So standard football works very well.

Football surely will be fun! Especially since the Lillorainian national team hasn't gotten past group stage for ages (as I stated in some RP). We might have better chances at some regional tournament.

Ru- wrote:

Ru has also a throughly middling international team in traditional football, despite their size and the local popularity of thier own version.

I think I came up with something like they only passed groups a couple of times. (fairly recently, in the early days Ru was truly awful.)

The FL (Federation of Lillorainen - I generally use FL for less typing effort, just for you to know ^^) has a strong league of very nice football teams in general, but sucks when it comes to international competitions - for whatever dumb reason.
(For an RL comparison - just imagine Germany would fail getting past group stage everytime ;) )

Ru is sports obsessed and has a very high powered professional soccer league. Fans use the differences in Ruvian rules as their excuse for the team's traditionally poor performances, claiming the adjustment from what their players are used to is simply difficult (ignoring that several players on the international team play abroad in 11 man leagues...)

oh, and this is unrelated, but I have an ask topic that I was hoping to get some life into it (and not having to bump it up just yet): viewtopic.php?f=23&t=446646

You don't have to ask in character or anything unless you want to. Figure this could grow into a fun way to flesh out some of Ru's details. Saw these were in fashion a few months ago and always meant to get in on it lol.

So, who would participate in a football league of SEA?
I was thinking of not making it a tournament in the classical, world-cup-sense, but a league of the national teams, of course with all the bells and whistles of a thread on NS-Sports, plus off-game events (for example hooligans or such stuff). Of course, the league itself would be relatively small to give the players a chance to play in their home leagues, including first leg and return leg games (or only one, depending on what we decide).
Or we make it a small tournament, in the classical sense. It depends on what you people want.
The Free Lands would, in any case, send in the Foireann.