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I didn't even bring up social issues because I figured that went without saying-on abortion, the GOP was pushing an amendment to the Constitution to ban it in Reagan's first term within a decade of Roe, which seems more robust than the current majority not even being able to get a vote on defunding Planned Parenthood, but I'd say at the least they've stayed relatively steady, while the Democrats have absolutely moved hard left from a mixed occasionally pro-life party to "Safe, legal, and rare" to the insanity in New York and Virginia.
On marital, sexual, and narcotic social issues, I don't think there's any argument at all that both parties have swung just massively to the left.
I'm quite glad to hear that. I've heard some optimistic arguments that the pandemic and riots are going to kill gun control as an issue for the left for years to come, but I'm nowhere near that optimistic. New gun owners, and more people discovering that the media has been lying to them about the actual state of gun laws in America, are both good things, but both short memories and high hypocrisy standards are going to dull most of that benefit.
"Abolish the police" and "only the police should have guns" are obviously fundamentally opposed concepts, but that's never really stopped anyone before, and the biggest impact that comes out of this is going to be a doubling down on gun control efforts as crime rises.
There are not many issues where both the strength of the media and their utter irresponsibility can be seen than in quizzing the American people on a point of fact. A 2019 Marist poll asked whether the per capita gun murder rate was higher 25 years ago or today. In reality, the rate has plummeted to barely half of what it was in the early 1990s, a massive sustained reduction in crime.
In the media-fed reality, 59% of people said that it was higher, and only 12% said that it was lower. (23% of people said it was the same, which is still completely wrong, and at least 6% were honest and said they did not know.) The homicide rate is cut in half and only 12% of people realize it. (A whopping 73% of Democrats said that crime was higher now. Interestingly, Independents were the most knowledgeable on the lower rate, but still only had a measly 18% realize it.) (There was also a very large and interesting gender gap as well. Men thought, 2.5 to 1, that crime had gotten higher. Women thought that 14.2 to 1.)
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/NPR_PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_1902121446.pdf#page=3
I get critical of media bias often, see my ranting on PolitiFact just a bit ago, but I'd be less livid about that if they actually succeeded in informing the public-they plainly do not. This is not even a civics question where most Americans don't know what the First Amendment says or something like that, this is literally a question of the ability to observe reality-and we end up seeing that the overwhelming majority are stuck in a reality of the media's creation.
All that is to say, as I realize that I veered a bit off topic, is that things are going to get worse for gun rights going forward. A media that has just outright gaslighted the American people on crime is going to be vastly worse when crime starts picking up as a result of the collapse of either community trust, police forces, or both, and the gun controllers (funded by 'throw minorities against the wall' Bloomberg) are not going to be delayed for a second by the hypocrisy of sending police to take people's guns while calling for their abolition.
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You're right, I should have included "caro" to make more sense, but "verbum factum est" is a valid participle and still has a logical translation: the Word having been brought forth. My point is that everything follows logically from the incarnation not scripture per se which is the word of God but not the Word of God. Sola scriptura was the doctrine of the Arians, whilst the orthodox appealed to Christ in the Church as do the Ecumenical Councils. Consider, for example, how the Council of Jerusalem does not appeal to scripture per se when it makes its decisions, but to God and the Holy Spirit (my Protestant pastor even strangely argued that the Council was against scripture even though it's...in scripture). All subsequent Councils do the same.
I'm not sure I have a problem with Solus Christus in general, it just seems a bit reductionist to say when Christ, in fact, reigns through men and, by extension, through the Church made up of his disciples through all time. I suppose a theologian would say we never can talk about Christ by himself because Christ is always within others and within the Church.
I think his platform still has something to do with it-you made the point earlier already about that being too conservative could be a problem in a state like Virginia and that going liberal helped in MA and MD, I think it's a simple step from that to note that populism is more popular in some states/demographics and that a squishy corporate Republican platform does have voters that like it more.
Left-populist and right-populist are two different animals, at least in the form they take in the West today, because Sanders-like left-populism (I'd also not put the populist label on him so readily) does not have the kind of cultural grievance in its core issues that right-populism does. Sanders does not really care either way about political correctness, he's all-in on the economy, but a right populist has a big part of their appeal on being actively against it, which tends to lead to the sorts of comments that are turned on by the media and get them hobbled in an election.
Even if the possibility of a crash from the massive outstanding liabilities is removed, which is pretty optimistic, it's the day-to-day of the growing debt that is slowing pulling the budget down. Interest rates are fairly low at present, and yet simple interest on the debt is 325 billion dollars a year-an insane amount, and one that is only growing, the CBO estimates that it will hit 3.0% of GDP by the end of the decade, and the CRFB is more cynical, estimating that it will exceed a trillion per year by then.
The global financial market is incredibly complicated, predicting most anything is difficult, but predicting a doomsday is not necessary when the guaranteed outcome of constantly rising debts is a budget more and more dominated by dead spending on interest payments, which by necessity are going to have to lead to some combination of higher taxes, lower spending, and more economic pain.
Clinton came out pretty hard against free trade-she turned against the TPP even while Obama was still trying to make it happen. Those voters did not stay home for Obama, but they did for her, which makes it seem that trade was probably not the deciding factor, at least not in that direction.
I guess I'd have to ask-what would be the data point that would convince you that such an agenda would not work? Theory is all well and good, but in practice you want to see some evidence of success, and if the target is too narrow, then there's not really ever any chance to make an empirical assessment. Sort of like the 'not real communism' argument, if people widely identified as populists such as Trump and Stewart are not real populists for the purposes of assessing the movement because they were national populists rather than state populists or some such thing, then it's going to be hard to confirm or reject the theory one way or another waiting for a very certain strain.
Yeah, it was margin, I think something like .4 to .2, too lazy to check at the moment but functionally identical in either case, marginal differences do not matter too much.
He was probably wise to drop out in 2000, I think that was a good call on his part. As for 2016, unless I am recalling incorrectly Romney announced that he was not running very early in the process, before any GOP candidates had jumped in, and Trump was one of the last to do so. It could still be strategy, but the timing does not seem to sync up too well.
I was talking about 2016. Basically that Obama would have beaten Trump head-to-head and Romney would have beaten Hillary head-to-head. I think those elections were primarily dependent on the quality and popularity (or lack thereof) of the Democratic candidate.
Vietnam, Iraq, Germany, and multipolarism:
In terms of the intervention itself, at least, the American one was less painful than in Vietnam or the Soviets in Afghanistan. None of them worked out great in terms of leaving a stable favorable government.
Sure, I wouldn't compare them to East Germany, nor someone like France my rating it was as a top dog among the non-powers. I would not call it significantly more dependent on the Soviets than Egypt or another Middle Eastern nation that bought primarily comblock equipment, and they certainly maintained a much more independent foreign policy than the U.S.S.R.'s satellites.
I don't necessarily disagree with this either, but it comes down to the same point-if you need to rely on high intelligence and good leadership to make the system work, the system is not going to work, and it is that much harder to have a collection of intelligent and skilled leaders in a multipolar system where a couple of dunderheads can blow the whole thing up. I would willingly compare the U.S.'s foreign policy record to the concert because even as, as you say, it has had plenty of failures, its failures have mattered far less. Failures in the bipolar system led to proxy wars like Vietnam. Failures in the unipolar system have led to squabbling interventions in the Middle East. Failures in the multipolar system led to two planet-shaking World Wars. Even if we discount the World Wars, the biggest failures of the multipolar system, it still saw multiple conflicts between great powers, something that neither the bipolar nor unipolar system has. The incompetence in those systems has simply had less dramatic consequence.
I'm a little doubtful of that last claim-but as to the general status of their militarization, the earlier start plainly favored Germany, which was actually in a state of trying to cool off their buildup for fear of overheating the economy before the war's start, which would be a major factor in Germany production not actually peaking until late in the war. Just in materiel, The Luftwaffe in 1938 outnumbered both the British and French air forces combined, by 1939, that balance had switched. The UK had not even kitted out its very first (and only) armored division until December of 1938, and both they and France absolutely used the respite to arm up, Chamberlain had UK defense spending hitting record levels in pre-war 1939, while Hitler was actively seeking conflict as quickly as possible.
Chamberlain is one of the most unfairly beat-on political figures in history. The Western Allies absolutely made good use of the time he bought them, and the assumed order of WWII is not as solid as it is retroactively viewed as. Today everyone loves to bring up Munich and Chamberlain to criticize any use of appeasement, but if they had started a World War over the Czechs, we would look back at it today even more harshly as a failure of hawkishness and a failure to use diplomacy.
U.S. politics:
I don't think populism is on the left-right spectrum, so I disagree that populism only works in some places.
The fact that most other developed economies of comparable scale have debts that are as high or higher, I'm not sure how that would shake out. Everyone is borrowing from everyone, and I think ultimately it all cancels out. I'm not interested in that aspect of economics, so I have no data to back that up; but for instance, roughly 25% of the national debt is owed by the government to itself, and the United States holds debt of countries that have their debt. Interest payments will certainly get high, but as that becomes true for most of the developed world, I think there will be room for "creative" solutions.
To the belief of no one. Everyone knows she called it the "gold standard" and they cracked down Stalin-style on anyone who tried to bring it up at the Democratic Convention. And comparing her position to Obama doesn't matter; no one challenged Obama's policy on trade because his stance was mirrored by his opponents. It wasn't relevant.
There's no data point that exists, there's too much evidence throughout history that populism is always the most effective method of garnering public support. I never said that Stewart and Trump weren't "real" populists, I just said that Trump tailored his message to his audience (which is literally the only real requirement of populism, "give the people what they want"); Stewart offered Virginia voters nothing they were asking for. Something that is popular on the national level is not going to be popular everywhere--but that doesn't mean populism doesn't work, it means that you've got to speak the language of the people you're campaigning to. Julius Caesar, the "founding father" of populism and arguably the most successful populist in history, probably wouldn't have to much luck if he had tried to court the Persian people instead of the Romans. That doesn't mean populism only works in Rome, it just means that a Roman message will fall on deaf, Persian ears. "When in Virginia, do as the Virginians do."
Romney reaffirmed his intention not to run in January 2015 (after previously weighing a third run), which was interpreted at that time as a boon to Jeb Bush, or possibly Jeb's rivals (which ended up being true). Trump did not renew his contract with NBC for the 'Celebrity Apprentice' the very next month (February), raising speculation he was going to run for president. He then announced he was forming an exploratory committee on March 18th the month after that. So I think the timeline syncs up very well.
Sources:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-out-a-boost-for-jeb-bush-and-who-else/2015/01/30/22a4bfdc-a8a4-11e4-a7c2-03d37af98440_story.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150710152015/http://www.unionleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20150227%2FNEWS0605%2F150229334%2F1010%2FArt
https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/03/nbc-still-planning-for-apprentice-despite-donald-trumps-presidential-claims-204171
Certainly I don't mean that they were a virtual puppet government under the Brezhnev Doctrine; I just mean that they were a satellite in the sense they were in the USSR's "orbit".
The unipolar system also doesn't have the same successes. The Boxer Rebellion intervention was in many ways a masterclass in successful multipolar cooperation between the Great Powers. The coalitions led by the US today rely disproportionately on US resources and, I would argue, is unsustainable. If not economically, then politically.
Lastly, as I said, I think a tripolar system works better than generic multipolarism with a greater multitude of powers. During the lead up to both world wars there were several powers in play; during WWI they were all of comparable strength; during WWII they were all of comparable weakness--Hitler's success was less a product of Germany's strength than it was the product of his neighbors' weakness. The strongest period of multipolarism was during the original Concert, when the Holy Alliance of Austria, Prussia, and Germany (with occasional help from France and Britain) were able to neutralize Napoleon during the Hundred Days and stabilize insurrections in Spain and Naples.
It only fell apart when the 1848 Revolutions destabilized Austria and Napoleon III took over in France, starting off a chain-reaction of destabilizing nationalism until Bismarck defeated Napoleon, unified Germany, and began the second phase of the Concert under the League of the Three Emperors. It was only after Bismarck's dismissal in 1890 that the second Concert began to deteriorate, and conflict between Austria and Russia would eventually lead to the first world war. Under Metternich and Bismarck, the nearly 100 years of the Concert were largely successful, with a "brief" 23 year intermission under Napoleon III, who destabilized the system in an attempt to remodel France into Europe's dominant power (which it was, at least until his defeat by Bismarck). That still leaves 76 years of relative calm compared to the chaos of the Cold War and "Pax Americana".
True, Hitler is slammed for his decisions on Stalingrad, while some historians argued he actually bought valuable time for the Wehrmacht to regroup on the Eastern Front. So the same could, conceivably, at least on an academic level, be true for Chamberlain. Still, that argument can cut both ways: it can just as easily be said that Chamberlain bought time for Germany to mobilize too, and Germany's rearmament was proceeding much more rapidly than the Western allies.
I am interested in becoming orthodox...
How do I do that though? How do I contact them? I sent a mail to the local temple in my city, but did not get a response... I don't know what to do and how to do that... I am currently a Jehovah's Witness...
While I am not Orthodox myself, here's my suggested advice: Study why you want to change from JW to Orthodox. If you're settled that changing is a good thing, then go to your local Orthodox church and speak to the priest one on one. See how worship is conducted in the church, if you could get used to that, can you communicate with the other people there, etc. There are myriad fundamental doctrinal and dogmatic differences between JW and the Orthodox, and while I firmly believe that it would be a good change, it's something that you yourself have to decide. So find your local EO church, speak to the priest about your convictions and let him lead you from that point on. He'll tell you how to be received into the Orthodox Church, when you can complete the sacraments of initiation, etc. And above all, pray and discern if this is right for you, without any pressure or time constraint.
Lastly, I may be wrong, but I believe The Gallant Old Republic is Orthodox? If so, you may wish to telegram him/her with your questions.
Culture of Life, The Catholic State of Eire, and Under ledzia
That's great! Christ's other lung! Ut Unum Sint!
As Horatius Cocles says, your best option is to attend a service, observe, and speak with the priest afterwards.
Horatius Cocles and Under ledzia
While covid, protests, and riots rock the nation, the U.S. House busied itself today with an unconstitutional bill to pack the U.S. Senate.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2020/roll122.xml
The Douglass Commonwealth, as it would be called, would be 4% as large as the next smallest state. It would be 15% as populous as the median state. The federal government would shower it with more than four times as many funds as any other state and more than seven times as many funds as the average state.
And did I mention that it would violate the Constitution? A fact that everyone explicitly or implicitly acknowledged as recently as the 1980s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Voting_Rights_Amendment
Both major parties only care about the Constitution as far as it advances their agenda.
The biggest reason is the doctrinal explanation of leadership. I agree with the orthodox about the church being the people with equal leaders and more apostolic approach, even though I do not agree with many of decisions of the church in the past, but neither do I agree with decisions of JWs from the past.
I also believe that religion is (quoting an orthodox priest) "Organisation made by us for us to preserve faith" and I happen to not agree in the magical view of JWs regarding prophecy, but rather the symbolical such as in the Orthodox church. Although JWs happen to slowly change the magical view to the symbolical, sometimes I just don't agree with their interpretation of symbolism, since I have read a lot of Jewish theological philosophy, which corresponds more with the orthodox than JWs.
The use of name Jehovah is in my opinion not actually anything making JWs better, since Orthodox can and do use it, just not commonly and so do most churches. Doing it personally, or using the more eastern version of it which I think is more proper, doesn't make a big difference. Then there is the elephant in the room... Trinity and John chapter 1. It is complicated and it is a cause in a lot of schisms and protestant uprisings in the church making different churches see trinity differently or adopt arianism, but I have found a very inteligent and wise priest in orthodoxy who said "arguing about trinity is like arguing about the morality of sex while being three. We know little about the nature of God and our words lack the power to describe it properly, which means all can be wrong and all can be right at the same time. What's more important is accepting the greatness of God without trying to tear it down in the name of winning an argument".
Iconography is another elephant in the room. I myself learned a bit about it in orthodoxy and I learned that there is tons of conrtroversy around it. The church doesn't accept worhip towards them and uses them for educational purposes with high restrictions on them and in what way they can be used. Prayer to them is officially heretical, same with exaltation of them, as only God may be exalted and not a piece of paper with paint on it, but there have been two movements in the past that starteg a huge controversy and ended in an anathema. One movement called Bogomisilm (gnostic movement) decided that God can be channeled through anything, thus worship of objects is not idolatry if the correct God is worshipped and Iconoclasm which said the opposite, that all icons must be destroyed in order to stop idolatry.
To this day Orthodox church calls Icons depictions of the holy figures "educational" and not vessels for worship, which makes them no different than illustrations of heavens or Jesus in Watchtowers. The difference being that Orthodox use very old styles for them and have more respect toward them, which does make sense since they are usually ancient or at least medieval artifacts.
Also it's hard to argue that a translation of The Bible is better than original Aramaic, Greek or Hebrew, which are used in orthodoxy to this day, while translations are nonetheless common and accepted.
While I'm not an Eastern Orthodox Christian, I am an Ordinariate Catholic/English Catholic/Anglican Catholic (there's a dispute over what is the best or proper name for us, since we're still very new). Former Evangelical and Methodist. Also a 'him'.
Culture of Life, Horatius Cocles, and Under ledzia
Be persistent if your conscience is determined. I tried to contact a couple of Catholic churches in my day and heard nothing, but, to paraphrase a priest, devils can be good at jamming communications if they so choose. Find a way to attend to get a taste of what it's really like. Perhaps attend a few times until you're comfortable. Then try to approach someone in the congregation or else the priest himself and tell them you're interested. There's a good chance they will approach you before then (once I was practically tackled at the door of a small fringe schismatic Anglican church eager to get a new member and kindly questioned by the priest and multiple lay members). I took the leap after consciously attending a Catholic school, attending mass almost daily, and approaching one of the priests at lunch. That was after a few years of reading church history and about 'high church' stuff which had already made up my mind, going to mass just confirmed that this was indeed what I had been looking for.
Anecdote: humorously the pew Missal were so complex and hard to follow along with I just had to listen. I memorized all the responses in less than a month, but when I saw them in print afterwards I kept having to make slight corrections since my hearing stinks sometimes.
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Thanks for the help. BTW we've got a new poll that continues the last one. Some people wanted US election poll, but the election polls have a queue. Not to mention I can't legally make political commentary of any kind during electoral silence.
Edit: I wrote Mazdanism instead of Mazdan... My bad...
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https://www.rt.com/usa/493151-king-louis-statue-protests/
WATCH crowd of protesters shout down Catholic priest trying to defend statue of Saint Louis in Missouri
Angry protesters in St. Louis, Missouri shouted down a young Catholic priest who tried to defend a statue of the city’s namesake. The activists sought to destroy the monument in a wave of statue-toppling sweeping the US.
Priest Stephen Schumacher was filmed in Forest Park defending an equestrian statue of French King Louis IX (1226-1270), the city’s namesake, who was canonized by the Catholic Church.
“Saint Louis was a man who willed to use his kingship to do good for his people,” Schumacher said through a loudspeaker to a crowd of angry protesters demanding to have the statue taken down. He insisted that the king had “nothing to do with Africans,” since during the Crusades he fought against Muslim Arabs, who themselves conquered North Africa centuries prior to that.
Schumacher also asked the crowd to learn more about Louis IX by visiting the local cathedral. One man responded, saying: “Eventually, we’re taking that [down] too, though.”
This whole thing of taking down statues is becoming an absurdity. I doubt Fr. Schumacher will get through to the protesters, given how history is irrelevant to them when it contradicts their narrative, but he is none the less brave and an example to follow.
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Belac Bíçiclas (The belacian states) - 82K +9K
H Bikes (Hopal) - 61K +2K
Urukian Minerals Production (Urukian) - 207K +26K
Novos Romanos Minerals Ltd (Novos romanos) - 182K +4K
Cratersville Mining Ltd (Isolationstan) - 178K +6K
visitBelac (The belacian states) - 130K +13K
Imagine Indoina (Indoinastan) - 118K +3K
TravelDumb (Dumb country) - 96K
Ugosalinese Casinos (Ugosal) - 116K +4K
Cykas ke liye Kazino (Indoinastan) - 118K +3K
The Rising Sun (The Strangers Club) - 134K +13K
Viking Studios & Dark House Films (El Spana) - 88K +4K
Belac Film Company (The belacian states) - 93K +11K
Romanichean Festives Stock (Romaniche) - 76K +16K
Flex Seal Family of Products (Swiftlandian Peoples Republic) - 206K -3K
River Styx (Draconovox) - 148K +23K
NR Slaves INC (Novos romanos) - 82K +3K
Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire) - 78K +4K
Viva Studios (Latiouthel) 73K +4K
The Spaniard Woodstock (El Spana) - 91K +4K
Auchan (Primorski Krai) - 81K +5K
Amorix International (Ethics committee of the scpf) - 75K +4K
مذابح الشمس (Urukian) - 73K +14K
श्रेकवादी हिंदू धर्म और संथाल मंदिर of മെമ്മുകളും കമ്യൂണിസവും (Indoinastan) - 68K +3K
Virgin Group (A Memer) - 69K
THIS WEEK’S LOSSES: $414 Billion
THIS WEEK’S REVENUE: $759 Billion
THIS WEEK’S PROFIT: $345 Billion
TOTAL ALL TIME REVENUE MADE SO FAR: ~$106 Trillion
NATIONS INVOLVED: 57
REGIONS INVOLVED: 19
Aug 16. Aussandries into Aussandries companies, 1 month
Aug 22. The Strangers Club 2 billion into The Strange Mart, 1 month
Aug 25. Urukian 2 billion into Urukian companies +1 billion to Urukian National Gas and Urukian Minerals Co., 1 month
Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Mecham (Isolationstan), 1 month
Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Rapni (Romaniche), 1 month
Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Tillamook Cheese (Isolationstan), 1 month
Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Romanichean Cheese (Romaniche), 1 month
Aug 25. Draconovox 2 billion into Spanabank (El Spana), 1 month
Aug 26. The belacian states into The belacian states companies, 1 month
Aug 26. Legionarya 10 million into Legionarya companies, 1 month
Aug 26. Hopal 3 billion into University Medicine, 1 month
Aug 26. Gavraska 35K into Pristine Urukian Fishing Co., 1 month
Aug 26. Gavraska 1 billion into Gavraska companies, 1 month
Aug 29. The Strangers Club 500 million into MegaSoft (Plus Nova Imperii), 1 month
Aug 29. The Strangers Club 500 million into Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire), 1 month
Aug 29. Koedric into BFP (Belned), 1 month
Aug 29. Akumanga 500 million into Sam’s Sauce, 1 month
Aug 29. Urukian 1 billion into تصنيع اذرع الشمس, 1 month
Aug 29. The belacian states 500 million into Chipps Chips (Isolationstan), 1 month
Aug 30. Gavraska 500 million into Khan’s Personal Fields (Khazar lechia), 1 month
Aug 30. Gavraska 500 million into Golden Wall (The rome empire), 1 month
Aug 30. Gavraska 200 million into La Branzika (Legionarya), 1 month
Aug 30. Aussandries 1 billion+ into visitBelac (The belacian states), 1 month
Sep 7. Legionarya 200 million into Legionarya companies, 1 month
Sep 7. Romaniche 150 billion into Romaniche companies, 1 week
Sep 7. Romaniche 50 billion into Emporious (Novos romanos), FN (Belned), BFP (Belned), NRAP (Novos romanos), Guns for Freedom (Legionarya), JP Capitalista (Novos romanos), La Branzinka (Legionarya), 1 week
Sep 7. Plus Nova Imperii into Plus Nova Imperii companies, 1 week
Sep 7. Plus Nova Imperii into Sorianora companies, 1 week
Sep 7. Sorianora into Sorianora companies, 1 week
Sep 7. Sorianora into Plus Nova Imperii companies, 1 week
Sep 7. Koedric into Bunker Apparatus (Koedric) and FN (Belned), 1 week
Sep 7. The Strangers Club 5 billion into The Strangers Club companies, 1 month
Sep 7. The Strangers Club 2 billion into MegaSoft (Puppet States of Plus Nova Imperii), 1 month
Sep 7. The Strangers Club 2 billion into Anime Production Center (Phoenix city of fire), 1 month
Sep 7. The soldrania 100 million into Bitterlich (Sturengartz), 1 month (IRPSFSM Company Investment) - Company Ceased to Exist, Investment Firm Payed Back With the Company’s Remaining Value (4 Billion)
Pizza: Increases your companies’ investment deadlines by a month | Cost: 10,000 Stock Points | Renewal Cost: 1,500 Points (Must be paid within a month)
Totem of Undying: Restores a company below 3,000 points back to the stock market with an initial value of 5,000 points | Cost: 0 Points, Message or Telegram to Peepeepoopoocaca (No renewal required)
Chaos Emerald: Increases a company’s value by 10% each week | Cost: 25,000 Points | Renewal Cost: 3,000 Points (Must be paid within a week)
Scooby Snack: Gives you 1,000 free karma points every month | Cost: 5,000 Points | Renewal Cost: 1,000 Points (Must be paid within a month)
Draconovox: 15% Shares in Mecham (22K), Rapni (21K), Tillamook Cheese (9K), Romanichean Cheese (14K), and Spanabank (23K)
Sorianora: 10% Share in MegaSoft (23K)
Gavraska: 1% Share in Pristine Fishing Co. (760)
The Strangers Club: 15% Share in MegaSoft (34K), and Anime Production Center (12K)
Koedric: 10% Share in BFP (12K)
Romaniche: 20% Share in BFP (24K), Guns For Freedom (30K), FN (21K), Emporious (28K), NRAP (22K), JP Capitalista (28K), La Brazinka (18K)
The belacian states: 10% Share in Chipps Chips (10K)
Gavraska: 10% Share in Khan’s Personal Fields (6K), and Golden Wall (8K)
Gavraska: 5% Share in La Brazinka (5K)
Aussandries: 15% Share in visitBelac (20K)
Indoinastan: 5% Share in U2 Space (6K), Satirop (4K), and Anime Production Center (4K)
Koedric: 10% Share in FN (11K)
- 10% of jetBank (The belacian states)
- 15% of Par Biir (The belacian states)
- 4% of Belac Film Company (The belacian states)
- 8% of Belac Bíçiclas (The belacian states)
Here’s where companies who’s country owners have ceased to exist go to be hopefully bought by new countries and return to the stock market
- Wooloo, Arms Manufacturing Company, Former Owner: Wooloo-land, Value: 7K
- Ludwig and Beilschmit, Space Company, Former Owner: Gallar, Value: 95K
- Glorious Potatoes Inc., Agriculture Company, Former Owner: Of altonianic islands Value: 75K
- Haberlin, Military Aircraft Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 58K
- Brausewetter, Natural Gas Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 40K
- Sturencabel, Telecommunications Company, Former Owner: Sturengartz Value: 60K
- The Golden Hour, Gambling Company, Former Owner: Gallar Value: 108K
- Billy’s Chicken, Poultry Farms Company, Former Owner: Chicknland Value: 60K
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COMPANY OF THE WEEK: Genos-Aelia company (Romaniche) - 158K
MOST VALUABLE COMPANY: Bing Software National (Of altonianic islands) - 362K
All of these companies are now currently in the Inter Regional Primary Stock and Financial Support Market (IRPSFSM)
- Gòngchǎn Baskets (Commie tebit)
- LS’s Bigmouth (CALLMEDADDYSTRATTON)
Plus Nova Imperii: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The Rouge Christmas State: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Urukian: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Moveyrsearlandez: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Otterse: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Indoinastan: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Isolationstan: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Mukh: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Novos romanos: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Port ashley: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Arcane the bot: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Edington: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Romaniche: Karma Multipliter: 15K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Callmedaddystratton: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Aussandries: Karma Multipliter: 3K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The belacian states: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Primorski Krai: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Sorianora: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Belned: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Puppet scp fuadation: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Commie tebit: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The greater german austrian empire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The rome empire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Pewds supporter: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Democratic republic of nothingness: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Republic of rajputana: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Carthaginian civilization: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Legionarya: Karma Multipliter: 9K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Khazar lechia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Phoenix city of fire: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Young industries: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The Strangers Club: Karma Multipliter: 8K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ofiussia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Wabobania: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Koedric: Karma Multipliter: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
New cica: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Rebirth Island: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ugosal: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
El Spana: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Swiftlandian Peoples Republic: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Draconovox: Karma Multipliter: 15K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The corporate sectors: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Slavic lechia: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Latiouthel: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Akumanga: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Mindon: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Japanese ronald mc donald: Karma Multipliter: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Hopal: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Gavraska: Karma Multiplier: 6K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Yes humans are recyclable: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Ethics committee of the scpf: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
The soldrania: Karma Multiplier: 1K Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
Dumb country: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
A Memer: Karma Multiplier: 0 Points, Power Ups: 0, Partnership Bank: None
”why are u gae”
It's good to see that Mississippi is taking steps to change its flag.
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/27/884306925/mississippi-lawmakers-clear-path-to-remove-confederate-emblem-from-state-flag
Either the Civil War flag or the 20-star flag would be an appropriate replacement.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Flag_of_Mississippi_%281861%E2%80%931865%29.svg/320px-Flag_of_Mississippi_%281861%E2%80%931865%29.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Flag_of_Mississippi_%282001_proposal%29.svg/320px-Flag_of_Mississippi_%282001_proposal%29.svg.png
Both flags still contain Confederate imagery. However, unlike the current flag, neither is explicitly racist.
Horatius Cocles, Phydios, The Rouge Christmas State, and Indoinastan
In other news, Princeton University is removing Woodrow Wilson.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/27/us/woodrow-wilson-princeton-university-trnd/index.html
I'm not a big fan of Wilson, but I don't think he should be removed either. He was an accomplished man -- a political scientist, a university president, a governor, and U.S. president -- and, on the whole, his racism is a comparatively small part of his legacy. It should be used as a teaching tool about human imperfection rather than as a rationale for destroying Wilson altogether, good parts and bad.
Wilson permanently crippled the United States and destroyed Europe, I'll not raise my voice to defend him.
I'm more disturbed by the farcical, "Year 0" revisionist nonsense of realtors censoring the term "master bedroom" from their listings.
Now that I am an official citizen of RtL, are there any other citizens (at least two) who would be interested in forming a new party? I think the current offering of parties leaves an opening for a non-socialist, non-secular party to move in and meet an unmet need.
This new party would mount a pro-social reform, pro-worker, pro-religion, pro-monarchy, pro-protectionist platform.
The most important thing I feel is... what will you call your party?
Also the CSP is all those positions you have listed, aside from the pro-monarchy of course, it will be however good to see more political variety.
I'm flattered.
Aawia, The Gallant Old Republic, Horatius Cocles, Phydios, and 5 othersThe Rouge Christmas State, The Catholic State of Eire, Lagrodia, Under ledzia, and Basilicus
I was thinking the Popular Industrial Monarchist Party (PIMP).
Unlike the socialist CSP, this party would be Bonapartist in spirit and so does not embrace the necessity of shifting the means of production into the hands of the proletariat in order to achieve social progress, but rather seeks to unify all classes under a strong, centralized monarchy, in cooperation with religious institutions to provide additional social cohesion.
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