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|1.||The Union of Dorig||Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Fascists||“Wolność, Równość, Braterstwo”|
|2.||The Dictatorial Federation of Lingang||Iron Fist Consumerists Imperialist Pig Dog Oppressors||“Imperium Optime Novit”|
|3.||The Ugly Organ of Panther||Corrupt Dictatorship Well-Meaning Dictatorship||“A King of Shreds and Patches”|
|4.||The Obviously Evil Empire of The great Wall of the virtuous||Democratic Socialists Ordinary Caring Intelligent World Citizens||“We put our fist where your mouth is”|
|5.||The Protectorate of Windswept Niue||Father Knows Best State Suspiciously Conservative Democracy||“Niue is windy sometimes”|
|6.||The United Ocean Kingdoms of Envisa||Father Knows Best State Suspiciously Conservative Democracy||“God, who let the Sea Monkeys out?”|
|7.||The Slayer of Ambiorix||Capitalist Paradise Corporate Slave State||“De Belgen waren de dappersten aller Galliers.”|
|8.||The Witch of Densaner||Iron Fist Consumerists Imperialist Pig Dog Oppressors||“Moo”|
|9.||The Food loving Federation of Cachopoland||Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Fascists||“We want to, and we are going to, deliver Pizza”|
|10.||The Kingdom of NorgiestoileckylockJ||New York Times Democracy Corporate-Dominated Sham Democracy||“NorgiestoileckylockJ could’ve been a longer name.”|
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Oh yeah, I forgot there was a hint that a nuclear war of some sort had occurred...just an image of a mushroom cloud in the background, I believe.
I'm not sure about that reading of their motives, though. I think most of them were really too young to comprehend what such a war would've meant. On top of that, I don't believe the children ever mention that the world outside is probably gone, or discuss the war that may be ongoing out there. They eventually give up hope of rescue, but that's more to do with just a general despair and unraveling. I think Golding was implying that it was simply the lack of social structure or civilization which drove them to barbarism.
Anyway, "cracking" novel, as you all might say...
By the way, what type of paper is "The Guardian"? I am always unsure what the quality of the newspaper is when I come across an article from a British newspaper online. I'd love to hear a brief rundown of British papers, from "most trusted" to "utter rubbish."
It’s a mid range liberal paper, it was founded in Manchester in the wake of The Peterloo Massacre. Most newspapers in the UK are right wing, almost all of them are garbage. You have snobby right wing papers such as The Times, mid range ones like The Daily Mail and The Daily Express and toilet paper ones like The Sun and The Daily Star. You also have the FT if you’re rich and The Morning Star if you’re a commie. The worst ones by far are The Sun and The Daily Mail. The only major centrist to centre left papers in the UK are The Guardian and The Daily Mirror.
That's interesting. LotF was written to combat the hundreds of stories being churned out at the time of groups of British boys being marooned and keeping the "british stiff upper lip", and trying to imagine what would happen if a group of small schoolboys were actually stuck on an island without any adults for a prolonged period of time. So, nice to know LotF isn't the scenario that would always play out.
The Guardian's one of the most reputable ones. We're encouraged to use it as a source for essays etc.
although it's left-wing, so it's got bias
Took me a bit to process all of those links.
I hadn't heard of the Hillsborough disaster, but that sounds truly awful. I don't think I understand the role of the press and misinformation, however. I gather that the event so badly reported by the Sun that it led to a significant loss of credibility among the public. But I don't understand why they were pushing those lies to begin with. What was everyone hoping to achieve by blaming the fans? Was it just to shift the blame away from the stadium owners?
Hadn't heard of the "Peterloo Massacre" either. I am similarly left with so many questions. A massive protest breaks out, and the city calls in the local cavalry who charge in with drawn sabres and trample everyone. And the response is the passage of new acts that aim to crackdown future meetings and reform movements? Well, this is all sounding FAR too similar to recent events over here...
Interesting that it led to the creation of "The Guardian," though. That's a noble origin for a paper.
I enjoyed, once again, your snippet from another episode of "Yes, Minister."
The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country.
The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country.
The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country.
The Daily Mirror is read by the wives of the people who run the country.
Financial Times is read by people who own the country.
The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country.
The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
... The Sun readers don't care who runs the country, so long as she's got big tits.
Ah, I hadn't heard that motivation for writing the novel. It came out after WWII, though, so quite understandable that pessimism about humanity was on his mind. But yes, the story did give me a little hope...though I wonder how much of it had to do with the culture of the Tongan boys? I wonder how a group of American boys would fare in such a situation...
Fixed that for you :P
With Hillsborough there was a number of aspects at play.
One was the fact that English football had real and genuine problems with hooliganism amongst some people who attended games. A few years before Hillsborough there was this -
It led to all English clubs being banned from European competitions for several years. When Hillsborough happened some people thought, yep bloody hooligans again. But that was far from the truth.
Another aspect was social class. Football back then was a largely working class sport. Imagine a similar disaster at Wimbledon or Royal Ascot. There would have been a massive outpouring of grief. But because of it being football, to hell with them.
Politics played into the mix as well. Britain was governed by Mrs Thatcher during the 1980s. She was extremely divisive. I hate her for what she did to Britain. There was a north / south divide. With the south largely voting for Thatcher. Liverpool was and is a largely working class city that supports the Labour Party. Like with the social class issue some people, including in the media, thought this disaster was an easy target to make political points. Hillsborough was caused by a massive failure of the police to effectively manage the crowd. And yes, they did try to cover that up.
Lastly you have the media. They like blood, sensation and conflict. Particularly Rupert Murdoch and his rabble. They don’t care, so long as it sells papers.
Peterloo was similar to above, class, politics, north vs south. Most people didn’t have the vote back then. It did lead to reform in time, but too little to late in my view. And it isn’t that dissimilar to recent events, particularly concerning the right to protest.
Ultimately both events centre around the UK’s class system, which has never, and will never go away.
I feel a recommendation coming on - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_(film)