Lazarus

Demonos wrote:

Being of the view that, if a nation’s live quote is through the CTEd of Lazarus, a Lazarene always.

What does that mean?

Dernel wrote:

I gave a commonly known example, the fact of the matter is that incest often causes issues in genetic inheritance. When you have two distant people breeding, the chances of genetic overlap are incredibly low, and as such genetic defects are low. When incest is involved these issues are amplified in their chances of appearing. These defects only need to show in one person to then spawn an entire bloodline of people with these defects, and when you consider the fact that this is someones entire life, it shouldn't be taken lightly, and the chances of defects like this that are easily avoidable should be avoided.

It only spawns a entire bloodline of defects if that person and there decendants continue to marry amongst each other for generations. Genetic defects arising from incest are oftentimes recessive genes, so if they marry someone outside the bloodline the negative effects should go away in a single generation. As long as your family is not systematically only marrying cousin's then it really dosent matter if you do have cousins that occasionally hook up.

Take my nice for example, my brother fell in love and married a woman that we discovered shared a common ancestor with us, after my nice had already been born. Now this shared ancestor lived a long time ago, he was literally a confederate soldier who died in the 1860s. And our family trees stayed completly separate until the birth of my nice. She doesn't have any severe problems tho. Her eyesight is bad, but that is due to a medication that her mother took while pregnant with her. They even won a class action lawsuit about it so its proven to not be due to inbreeding.

In fact she is physically fit compared to her poor half brother. As far as I know his family tree has no shared ancestors. However hes sick, bad sick. The doctors dont know what's wrong with him. His poor mother has tried everything she can do to help him, she flown him to specialist doctors in Minnesota several times because the doctors here openly admitted they have no idea what is wrong with him. And the doctors in Minniosta dont really know what's wrong either, one of them said he thinks he has a diagnosis but if that doctor is right then he is the secound person worldwide to ever be diagnosed with this disease. Hes always pale whenever I meet him and he has the energy of a 70 year old man, despite the fact that hes only 19 years old. If things keep up they way they're it will be a miracle if that boy lives to see his 30th birthday. It just goes to show that no matter who your parents are, life just deals some people a bad hand.

Good morning, my fellow Lazarenes! It's been a long time, it's good to be back. I think.

Dernel wrote:

After some review I think I may have misread this and thought they were calling Tubbius fascist.

Tubbius is greatly famished but is no fascist. Mmph

New Vedan wrote:

It only spawns a entire bloodline of defects if that person and there decendants continue to marry amongst each other for generations. Genetic defects arising from incest are oftentimes recessive genes, so if they marry someone outside the bloodline the negative effects should go away in a single generation. As long as your family is not systematically only marrying cousin's then it really dosent matter if you do have cousins that occasionally hook up.

Take my nice for example, my brother fell in love and married a woman that we discovered shared a common ancestor with us, after my nice had already been born. Now this shared ancestor lived a long time ago, he was literally a confederate soldier who died in the 1860s. And our family trees stayed completly separate until the birth of my nice. She doesn't have any severe problems tho. Her eyesight is bad, but that is due to a medication that her mother took while pregnant with her. They even won a class action lawsuit about it so its proven to not be due to inbreeding.

In fact she is physically fit compared to her poor half brother. As far as I know his family tree has no shared ancestors. However hes sick, bad sick. The doctors dont know what's wrong with him. His poor mother has tried everything she can do to help him, she flown him to specialist doctors in Minnesota several times because the doctors here openly admitted they have no idea what is wrong with him. And the doctors in Minniosta dont really know what's wrong either, one of them said he thinks he has a diagnosis but if that doctor is right then he is the secound person worldwide to ever be diagnosed with this disease. Hes always pale whenever I meet him and he has the energy of a 70 year old man, despite the fact that hes only 19 years old. If things keep up they way they're it will be a miracle if that boy lives to see his 30th birthday. It just goes to show that no matter who your parents are, life just deals some people a bad hand.

The issue here is that the example given is purely anecdotal, it doesn't represent the whole situation. Evidence is shown that an average child born of an under 35 mother has about a 3% chance of having any birth defect. When between cousins this doubles. If over 35, this goes from 3% to 4% meaning, that between cousins it is an 8% chance of a birth defect compared to a normal couple.

Now, I understand your argument, of love is love, and as long as it doesn't effect anyone else it doesn't matter. Only issue is, it does affect someone else. It affects the child. Even if it doesn't pass on to the grand children, it still messes with that child's entire life. When you double the chances of someone's life being generally messed up, or even completely destroyed, it's not something one should be ok with, much less encourage.